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February 21, 2019, 10:38 AM | #26 | |
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February 23, 2019, 05:04 PM | #27 |
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Anti-rights groups have predictably come out against the bill in force. They procured a phone survey which, they say, show "91 percent of Kentuckians and 90 percent of gun owners in the state favor the current permitting system for carrying concealed weapons." The survey also shows two-thirds of Kentuckians oppose the current bill and 72 percent would be less likely to vote for a legislator voting for the bill. The survey company surveyed 1,169 adults and states there was an error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. The surevey was commissioned by Everytown for Gun Safety and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense. News story here: https://www.kentucky.com/news/politi...226510505.html
I absolutely do not believe this poll is a valid reflection of opinion. The story does not list the specific questions asked and neither do news releases from either anti-rights organization. The polling company, SurveyUSA does not even mention the survey on its website. I have to believe the questions were so slanted to make the poll invalid and/or many favoring concealed carry chose not to respond. I get tons of calls from survey companies. I never participate. |
February 23, 2019, 06:35 PM | #28 |
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The 2nd amendment clearly states the right to bear arms, by the people, should not be infringed----our elected officials swear an oath to abide by the constitution. How can they legislate gun control laws that violate the 2nd amendment? Does it not stand to reason they have violated their oath and have impeached themselves making such laws. Same with LEOs--they also swear to abide by the constitution...so how can they justify enforcing an unconstitutional law? I laud Kentucky for this legislation, but there should have never been the need to enact it in the first place.
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February 23, 2019, 08:55 PM | #29 | |
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ETA: Being from Kentucky, I would bet this is probably one of the most "slanted" surveys/polls ever put together.
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March 1, 2019, 03:26 PM | #30 |
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Got past the house; headed to the Governor's desk! 60-37 vote.
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March 2, 2019, 01:18 PM | #32 |
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I would expect the governor to sign the bill, though he has not commented publicly about it. The governor, a Republican, has taken some controversial actions on a variety of things and I would not expect him to do something to tick off his political base, especially with the widespread support the bill had in the state legislature. I'm also not surprised that Louisville Metro didn't like it, though I assume that it was primarily the decision of the chief. I'm a little surprised about the FOP.
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March 2, 2019, 02:13 PM | #33 |
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Cincinnati Channel 12 news had a clip of the Governor stating that he would be signing the bill.
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March 12, 2019, 07:15 AM | #34 |
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The governor signed the bill into law yesterday. Since it has no emergency provision, it will go into effect 90 days after the legislature adjourns on March 28th.
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March 12, 2019, 01:01 PM | #35 | |
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There's not much settled law on the specifics of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms." The only way to get there is for legislatures to enact laws and for the federal courts to review challenges to those laws. That's how enumerated powers are supposed to work; no one's violating any oaths.
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To Brownstone322: I understand your point, but I can't completely agree with you. Too often legislators enact laws that are obviously at variance with the Constitution (or, in the case of state or local legislative bodies, at variance with the respective state constitution or laws) even though they know they aren't in keeping with the Constitution. Look at Hillary Clinton -- in the aftermath of the Heller and McDonald decisions, she stated flat out that the Supreme Court was "wrong." Remember, she was a United States senator. That single statement demonstrated conclusively that she had no respect for the Constitution she had sworn to uphold. On a smaller/lower level, I can't find it again but I recall seeing a video on Youtube of a meeting of some local legislative body. They were debating the adoption of some restrictive, anti-gun ordinance. The state in question had a firearms preemption statute, which meant that if the municipality (or county, don't remember which) adopted the proposed ordinance it would be unenforceable. A member of the audience pointed this out to the legislative body. One of the councilmen then made the statement that he didn't care if the proposed law was prohibited by state law, he was going to vote for it anyway because "We have to do something." I do not believe that the Founders ever intended for the Congress to engage in a cat-and-mouse game in which the Congress would intentionally enact laws they know full well are in conflict with the Constitution, but they count on the fact that it would cost huge amounts of money and take many years for anyone to successfully challenge the laws in court. That's morally wrong, even if you wish to argue that it's "legal." But that's what we see in action today. And it stinks. |
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A cynic might argue that good faith isn't relevant to a system in which counting votes, 218, 51 or 5, is enough to win, but disputes seem more susceptible to genuine resolution with a coherent foundation where we all speak the same constitutional language and make arguments rather than excuses.
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