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January 14, 2011, 04:05 PM | #1 |
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Brokaw: "I Would Be Nervous Going Into A Bar" In Arizona
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...n_arizona.html
Brokow states that Arizona residents can carry concealed without a permit. With a simple search I found that you must have a permit to carry concealed and to get a permit one of the rules is you have to go to an 8 hour class. I hope his uninformed mind does not spread false facts to others.
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He's right about one thing.... I'm always nervous if I have to go to a bar. That's why I don't. Guns don't have anything to do with it though.
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January 14, 2011, 04:41 PM | #3 |
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Its illegal to carry concealed in any establishment that serves alcohol. At least it is in the great state of Alabama. Who cares what Tom Brokow or any other liberal thinks. They wont be happy until we no longer have ANY gun.
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Correct me if I am wrong,,,
But didn't Arizona just pass a law legalizing carry without a permit?
I'm 98% certain I read that here somewhere. Aarond
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Arizona did pass constitutional carry. Obtaining a permit is optional. And 42 states allow concealed carry in premises that serve alcohol although some limit it to restaurants only). Two of the remaining 8 (Wisconsin and Illinois) don't allow concealed carry at all.
Brokaw has probably sat next to a CCW holder in a bar and didn't know it. Quote:
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January 14, 2011, 06:28 PM | #6 |
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I'd be nervous in any bar that let Tom Brokaw in.
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I carry in bars in Colorado. It's never been a problem. I'm sure it never will be.
If somebody is afraid to be around guns, that's his problem, not mine.
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Don't ya remember the bury the guns in PVC threads of the good ol' days?
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We eliminated the permit in September of last year when we enacted Constitutional Carry, which says you may conceal if you are not going to commit a crime, (basically), BUT we still offer it for those who want it. To carry in an establishment serving open alcohol you MUST have a permit and the establishment must NOT have the sign posted prohibiting carry. Also the permittee may NOT consume any alcohol.
I think the training for CCW can be waived now if you had practically any training before whatsoever, and the mandatory class is something like 4 hours. When it started in '94, it was 16 hours. |
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just watch some of MSNBC and you can get a headache with all the anti-gun retoric going on. Its called main stream media
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I think my permit says 51% revenue comes from alcohol served then I can't carry. Others say 'any place' selling alcohol (liquor stores too). Others don't have any restrictions. Alabama is very hit and miss on the actual details of CCW. As for AZ, they have constitutional carry but you need a permit to carry into a few off limits places like bars. |
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Brokow would be nervous to be in a bar in PA. you can open carry without a license. there are no legal restrictions on carry and or drinking in a bar.
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Gee Tom, pay no attention to the fact that the parking lot at that bar is full of vehicles that may soon be driven down the road by the patrons of that same bar.
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Apart from Brokaw's reference to "underground bunkers," I really can't see anything here to complain about. He isn't reporting news, nor is he pretending to. It's an op-ed piece. He was correct about concealed carry without a permit, and he's entitled to feel anxious about bars.
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I would think that a big celebrity would be nervous going into any bar, in any state, but that's just me.
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I'm not sure this is even a valid topic in L&CR.
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Brokaw is yet another left-wing weenie ... I wouldn't patronize a bar that would let him past the door ...
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I wouldn't patronize a bar that doesn't support Constitutional freedoms, or that has people on the door checking your beliefs or background before you can come in.
Defeats the point of a bar. |
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How obnoxious...and usually the argument is "Well, if someone gets drunk they'll shoot people up!"
Paying no attention, of course, to the fact that alcohol does not fundamentally alter character. |
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Most ranges prohibit alcohol.
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