Since it passed here in WA [Silencer bill]

Dan31 · May 25, 2011, 04:15 AM

I am wondering if I had an AR15 with the shortest legal barrel [16"?] could I have it shortened and add a silencer permanently attached to make the overall barrel length back to 16"? Would it be legal?
I figure a silenced compact AR would be perfect as a home defense weapon.

Geezerbiker · May 25, 2011, 05:50 AM

I wouldn't. Suppressors need to be removed and cleaned and permanently attaching it would make that a pain...

Tony

Willie Lowman · May 25, 2011, 10:55 AM

Very few people clean centerfire rifle cans. Most are welded shut and all you could do to clean them would be soak them in some solvents.

However most folks clean their rifle barrels. If you were to loose a cleaning patch (or worse yet a jag) in a perm attached can there would be problems.

Best bet is to get a SBR and put your can on it.

If you can't get SBR in your state, get a 14.5" upper with a perm attached mount like the AAC Blackout. That will give you your 16" and the smallest available can will put you around 19"

I am not gonna touch the "using suppressors for HD" thing. We've had that argument here before.

RAnb · May 25, 2011, 03:12 PM

I own an AR and make silencers as a hobby. What you suggest is legal. I would not do it though. I would rather be able to attach the silencer to other rifles too. Cleaning the silencer will probably not be a problem, my AR can is sealed and works just fine. The only problem may be the barrel crown, it will get very dirty after a while especially if you can not clean it.

If you need something in 223 and very compact, then get an AR pistol and put a detactable can on it. Not as good as a real carbine or SBR in a defense situation, but it is an option.

Ranb

Dan31 · May 26, 2011, 01:07 AM

TY

hknut · May 29, 2011, 11:51 PM

Now there are some suppressors that can be disassebled form the projectile end. So wouldn't that be an option?

Willie Lowman · May 30, 2011, 10:51 AM

Tac-Sol offers .22 barrels that are 12.5" with a 4" perm attached shroud that a suppressor can fit into.

I can't see why the same thing couldn't be done on a .223 barrel.

Here is a pic I borrowed from another site. you can see the suppressor shroud sticking out of the handguard and the can inside.

May 25, 2011, 04:15 AM	#1
Dan31 Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: Graham, WA Posts: 145	Since it passed here in WA [Silencer bill] I am wondering if I had an AR15 with the shortest legal barrel [16"?] could I have it shortened and add a silencer permanently attached to make the overall barrel length back to 16"? Would it be legal? I figure a silenced compact AR would be perfect as a home defense weapon. __________________ I was told once "if you don't have anything good to say don't say anything at all"

May 25, 2011, 10:55 AM	#3
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Very few people clean centerfire rifle cans. Most are welded shut and all you could do to clean them would be soak them in some solvents. However most folks clean their rifle barrels. If you were to loose a cleaning patch (or worse yet a jag) in a perm attached can there would be problems. Best bet is to get a SBR and put your can on it. If you can't get SBR in your state, get a 14.5" upper with a perm attached mount like the AAC Blackout. That will give you your 16" and the smallest available can will put you around 19" I am not gonna touch the "using suppressors for HD" thing. We've had that argument here before. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

May 26, 2011, 01:07 AM	#5
Dan31 Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: Graham, WA Posts: 145	TY __________________ I was told once "if you don't have anything good to say don't say anything at all"

May 29, 2011, 11:51 PM	#6
hknut Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2005 Location: Olympia, Wa. Posts: 535	Now there are some suppressors that can be disassebled form the projectile end. So wouldn't that be an option? __________________ "Gun control is like trying to reduce Drunk Driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars" Walk softly and carry a big SIG.

May 30, 2011, 10:51 AM	#7
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Tac-Sol offers .22 barrels that are 12.5" with a 4" perm attached shroud that a suppressor can fit into. I can't see why the same thing couldn't be done on a .223 barrel. Here is a pic I borrowed from another site. you can see the suppressor shroud sticking out of the handguard and the can inside. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

May 25, 2011, 05:50 AM	#2
Geezerbiker Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Location: Willamina, OR Posts: 1,908	I wouldn't. Suppressors need to be removed and cleaned and permanently attaching it would make that a pain... Tony

May 25, 2011, 03:12 PM	#4
RAnb Junior member Join Date: July 20, 2008 Location: WA, USA Posts: 447	I own an AR and make silencers as a hobby. What you suggest is legal. I would not do it though. I would rather be able to attach the silencer to other rifles too. Cleaning the silencer will probably not be a problem, my AR can is sealed and works just fine. The only problem may be the barrel crown, it will get very dirty after a while especially if you can not clean it. If you need something in 223 and very compact, then get an AR pistol and put a detactable can on it. Not as good as a real carbine or SBR in a defense situation, but it is an option. Ranb