Little Help if Y'all Arn't to Busy

death2twinkys · October 30, 2006, 06:03 AM

Hey guys, I was wondering what all permits I would need (also how I would go about applying for said permits) and as many prices as you can come up with for them I live in Lake Oswego Oregon if that helps any. Permits for what you ask, for this http://www.impactguns.com/store/product3851.html Thanks in advance---Alex

elliott · October 30, 2006, 06:43 AM

If you are in a class III state then its just a $200 tax stamp. I would start with calling a local dealer and ask for the number of a class III dealer.

death2twinkys · October 30, 2006, 06:50 AM

I didn't think that a short barrel constituted class III, I thought it was a completely different permit.

silicon wolverine · October 30, 2006, 07:27 AM

short barrel shotguns and rifles fall under teh NFA as do suppressors and full auto guns. the paper process for aquring them is different.

SW

OJ · October 30, 2006, 12:27 PM

[QUOTEshort barrel shotguns and rifles fall under teh NFA as do suppressors and full auto guns. the paper process for aquring them is different.
][/QUOTE]

Yes. I was given this H&R Handy Gun .410 pistol (12" barrel single shot for 2 1/2" shells only and no choke) by a friend of my dad's in 1933 and, in 1934, the National Firearms Act was passed primarily, as I recall, to restrict possession of Thompson submachine guns as the favorite weapon of bootleggers - never mind prohibition was repealed the year before. The registration form required a reason for owning such NFA weapon (and a fee of $200.00 - not inconsequential in those depression years) and I put that I was a "gun collector" - I was almost eight years old.

It's never been made clear why currently manufactured pistols that can fire .410 shells are less of a threat as a terrible weapon only because they have barrels rifled so they can shoot .45 caliber ammo also but, the BATFE, in all their bureaucratic wisdom have decreed that - and still refuse to release this collector's item from the NFA list - even though they did reclassify it as a "Curio & Relic" some years ago.

There is no legal way to acquire one if it's not registered and possession of an unregistered one calls for a fine of $10,000.00!!!

:barf:

death2twinkys · October 30, 2006, 08:27 PM

harsh

MisterPX · October 31, 2006, 06:02 PM

NOt sure if OR allows SBR's or not, so keep that in mind. Anyhow, contact your C3 dealer to do a transfer, he'll send paperwork to Impact. Pay impact for OEM P90 SBR. Impact files form 3 with ATF to transfer to your dealer. When your dealer has it, you file a from 4 with atf (fingerprints, cit., photo's, CLEO sig., $200), form 4 come back approved, you drive to your dealer, fill out 4473 (no phone call needed), take P90 home with you.

death2twinkys · October 31, 2006, 10:39 PM

Cool, thanks guys need a few moths to save the cash for it but I think it will be completely worth it. One last question you don't need to be 21 to get the permit for a sbr do you? I know to purchase a pistol you need to but since it is a rifle...

VUPDblue · October 31, 2006, 11:04 PM

Sorry, but you must be 21 to own a SBR or any other NFA item...

death2twinkys · November 1, 2006, 12:14 AM

God damn communists, I can join the army choose our leadership, do time in federal prison but i still dont count as a real person because I am not {insert an arbitrary number here} years old. I know over half of you are going to say that you don't think 18 year olds are old enough but they were in the past what has really changed since it was legal other than the fact that more and more minors are taught to ignore the law since it prevents them from doing any number of things their parents did and/or do. Preventative legislation doesnt work.

Sorry personal rant, this isnt the first time i was kept from a gun by my age politians piss me off.

TexasSIGMan · November 3, 2006, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Sorry personal rant, this isnt the first time i was kept from a gun by my age politians piss me off.

So buy the long barrelled version now, then when you turn 21 have a gunsmith hack the barrel off and thread it for the flash hider or even better get a can. Or buy just the barrel itself and make it an SBR yourself.

Most SBRs are made that way rather than being purchased short in the first place.

death2twinkys · November 4, 2006, 06:43 AM

I know that those are all option i have already decided which course of action i will take but that is beside the point. My point is that it shouldn't be an issue since I am old enough to choose the leadership of this country old enough to die for this country and old enough to not be considered a minor in a court of law shouldnt it stand to reason that I be old enough to purchase what ever firearm I can afford?

I know that in a few years it wont bug me at all since i will be older and not effect me but its the fact that I am old enough to be held fully accountable for my actions but still not given the respect to make my choices. It iritates me is all.

(I appologize for grammatical mistakes its more of a rant and I am too tired to fix them i merely hope its comprehendible)

joe_burg185 · November 4, 2006, 06:56 AM

Yea I Think It's A Bunch Of B/s I Am In The Military And I Wasn't 21 And I Thought It Was B/s That I Couldn't Drink Or Buy A Handgun.........but I Am Old Enough To Go To War And Die For My Country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F The Politicians

October 30, 2006, 06:03 AM	#1
death2twinkys Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2006 Posts: 136	Little Help if Y'all Arn't to Busy Hey guys, I was wondering what all permits I would need (also how I would go about applying for said permits) and as many prices as you can come up with for them I live in Lake Oswego Oregon if that helps any. Permits for what you ask, for this http://www.impactguns.com/store/product3851.html Thanks in advance---Alex __________________ According to the gun designer of The Matrix. Larry & Andy Wachowski: Who uses a .50 Desert Eagle? Gun Designer: A wanker. Wachowskis: No, who are they made for? Designer: Wankers. Wachowskis: Our wankers in this film want Desert Eagles. Designer: Your film.

October 30, 2006, 06:50 AM	#3
death2twinkys Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2006 Posts: 136	I didn't think that a short barrel constituted class III, I thought it was a completely different permit. __________________ According to the gun designer of The Matrix. Larry & Andy Wachowski: Who uses a .50 Desert Eagle? Gun Designer: A wanker. Wachowskis: No, who are they made for? Designer: Wankers. Wachowskis: Our wankers in this film want Desert Eagles. Designer: Your film.

October 30, 2006, 12:27 PM	#5
OJ Senior Member Join Date: December 25, 1998 Location: COLORADO SPRINGS, CO, USA Posts: 1,570	[QUOTEshort barrel shotguns and rifles fall under teh NFA as do suppressors and full auto guns. the paper process for aquring them is different. ][/QUOTE] Yes. I was given this H&R Handy Gun .410 pistol (12" barrel single shot for 2 1/2" shells only and no choke) by a friend of my dad's in 1933 and, in 1934, the National Firearms Act was passed primarily, as I recall, to restrict possession of Thompson submachine guns as the favorite weapon of bootleggers - never mind prohibition was repealed the year before. The registration form required a reason for owning such NFA weapon (and a fee of $200.00 - not inconsequential in those depression years) and I put that I was a "gun collector" - I was almost eight years old. It's never been made clear why currently manufactured pistols that can fire .410 shells are less of a threat as a terrible weapon only because they have barrels rifled so they can shoot .45 caliber ammo also but, the BATFE, in all their bureaucratic wisdom have decreed that - and still refuse to release this collector's item from the NFA list - even though they did reclassify it as a "Curio & Relic" some years ago. There is no legal way to acquire one if it's not registered and possession of an unregistered one calls for a fine of $10,000.00!!! :barf: __________________ OJ - SEMPER FI - DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY NRA ENDOWMENT LIFE MEMBER

October 30, 2006, 08:27 PM	#6
death2twinkys Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2006 Posts: 136	harsh __________________ According to the gun designer of The Matrix. Larry & Andy Wachowski: Who uses a .50 Desert Eagle? Gun Designer: A wanker. Wachowskis: No, who are they made for? Designer: Wankers. Wachowskis: Our wankers in this film want Desert Eagles. Designer: Your film.

October 31, 2006, 10:39 PM	#8
death2twinkys Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2006 Posts: 136	Cool, thanks guys need a few moths to save the cash for it but I think it will be completely worth it. One last question you don't need to be 21 to get the permit for a sbr do you? I know to purchase a pistol you need to but since it is a rifle... __________________ According to the gun designer of The Matrix. Larry & Andy Wachowski: Who uses a .50 Desert Eagle? Gun Designer: A wanker. Wachowskis: No, who are they made for? Designer: Wankers. Wachowskis: Our wankers in this film want Desert Eagles. Designer: Your film.

October 30, 2006, 06:43 AM	#2
elliott Member Join Date: November 29, 2001 Location: Wyoming Posts: 58	If you are in a class III state then its just a $200 tax stamp. I would start with calling a local dealer and ask for the number of a class III dealer.

October 30, 2006, 07:27 AM	#4
silicon wolverine Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2006 Location: South dakota Posts: 674	short barrel shotguns and rifles fall under teh NFA as do suppressors and full auto guns. the paper process for aquring them is different. SW

October 31, 2006, 06:02 PM	#7
MisterPX Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2006 Location: Amerika's Doyleland Posts: 809	NOt sure if OR allows SBR's or not, so keep that in mind. Anyhow, contact your C3 dealer to do a transfer, he'll send paperwork to Impact. Pay impact for OEM P90 SBR. Impact files form 3 with ATF to transfer to your dealer. When your dealer has it, you file a from 4 with atf (fingerprints, cit., photo's, CLEO sig., $200), form 4 come back approved, you drive to your dealer, fill out 4473 (no phone call needed), take P90 home with you.

October 31, 2006, 11:04 PM	#9
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	Sorry, but you must be 21 to own a SBR or any other NFA item... __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

November 1, 2006, 12:14 AM	#10
death2twinkys Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2006 Posts: 136	God damn communists, I can join the army choose our leadership, do time in federal prison but i still dont count as a real person because I am not {insert an arbitrary number here} years old. I know over half of you are going to say that you don't think 18 year olds are old enough but they were in the past what has really changed since it was legal other than the fact that more and more minors are taught to ignore the law since it prevents them from doing any number of things their parents did and/or do. Preventative legislation doesnt work. Sorry personal rant, this isnt the first time i was kept from a gun by my age politians piss me off. __________________ According to the gun designer of The Matrix. Larry & Andy Wachowski: Who uses a .50 Desert Eagle? Gun Designer: A wanker. Wachowskis: No, who are they made for? Designer: Wankers. Wachowskis: Our wankers in this film want Desert Eagles. Designer: Your film.

November 4, 2006, 06:43 AM	#12
death2twinkys Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2006 Posts: 136	I know that those are all option i have already decided which course of action i will take but that is beside the point. My point is that it shouldn't be an issue since I am old enough to choose the leadership of this country old enough to die for this country and old enough to not be considered a minor in a court of law shouldnt it stand to reason that I be old enough to purchase what ever firearm I can afford? I know that in a few years it wont bug me at all since i will be older and not effect me but its the fact that I am old enough to be held fully accountable for my actions but still not given the respect to make my choices. It iritates me is all. (I appologize for grammatical mistakes its more of a rant and I am too tired to fix them i merely hope its comprehendible) __________________ According to the gun designer of The Matrix. Larry & Andy Wachowski: Who uses a .50 Desert Eagle? Gun Designer: A wanker. Wachowskis: No, who are they made for? Designer: Wankers. Wachowskis: Our wankers in this film want Desert Eagles. Designer: Your film.

November 4, 2006, 06:56 AM	#13
joe_burg185 Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2006 Posts: 7	Hells Yea Yea I Think It's A Bunch Of B/s I Am In The Military And I Wasn't 21 And I Thought It Was B/s That I Couldn't Drink Or Buy A Handgun.........but I Am Old Enough To Go To War And Die For My Country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F The Politicians