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Old October 14, 2017, 02:14 PM   #1
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NAA moves Ranger II into production. Shipping next month.

From NAA CEO Sandy Chisholm:

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It is with a great sense of pride (and similar sense of relief) that I introduce the long-awaited Ranger II Early Bird Program. Following this link will take you to a dedicated page where you can enter your order.

The order window will be open for the month of October. At the end of the month, you will receive notice from the factory as to whether or not your order has been accepted and will be processed. All orders entered during October will not necessarily be accepted, as we expect more orders than there will be product to satisfy them. As I earlier indicated, we will prioritize acceptance and fulfillment of these orders based on the number of posts you’ve made to our Message Board. Admittedly, this is an imperfect/flawed measure of your “friendship” with the factory.

The EB allocation will be 250 pieces, and we will ship half of our production to satisfy these orders. The other half will be delivered to our “primary” customers, our distributor partners. We anticipate beginning production before the end of October and expect that for the foreseeable future, production will approximate 100 pieces/week, in which event all EB orders should be filled before Christmas – but, as we’re all aware, despite our best efforts, stuff happens. EB pieces will be identified with the serial # EBIIXXX. No custom serial numbers will be available.

We have met certain cost targets and are offering these (as well as later) pieces at MSRP $479 (plus $10 S&H for each piece). Each order can be for as many as two pieces. These guns will be chambered in.22WMRF. Each order can elect to have a second, LR cylinder included for $75. Each order will be secured by a credit card – which will not be charged until the order is shipped – or any other form of prepayment (check, money order, etc.). Before acceptance, each order must be accompanied by the FFL of the receiving dealer.

At the outset, all product will be of the shorter (1.5”) barrel length. In time, we anticipate offering 2.5” and 4.0” barrel lengths.

We thank you for your interest and your patience, not only throughout the protracted development period, but also as we attempt to satisfy EB orders, as well as afterwards.

If, during the process, you would like personal attention, you’ll find it at 800-821-5783 or [email protected]. Depending on the traffic, you shouldn’t be surprised if we don’t respond as quickly as we usually do. If you want to offer further feedback, complimentary or critical, please direct it to [email protected].
It's been since SHOT 2016 when NAA unveiled they were working on a new top break design and it looks like they will finally be available... albeit in limited numbers because they're not going to be able to make enough of these to meet demand.

The $500 price is a bit steep for what the gun is tho, a backup gun. I'm sure over time the price will go down and I think $400 would be very reasonable.
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Old October 14, 2017, 04:27 PM   #2
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I will pass.....to make it easier to "fill demand"....
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Old October 14, 2017, 05:07 PM   #3
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Pretty cool litle gun, but speed loading a range toy isn't worth more than twice the price of my 22 Short Mini. Will wait to see where the price eventually goes.
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Old October 14, 2017, 05:15 PM   #4
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I’m getting one to go along with my Sidewinder... eventually.

Not a carry gun for me, but a cute toy. I like revolvers, and odd firearms. The Sidewinder filled my “tiny” gun need... the Ranger II will be a nice one to keep it company.

Also a fan of older top-breaks, so this will also fit in there.
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Old October 14, 2017, 05:24 PM   #5
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Cheap, I tend to agree with you. For what this Ranger is, all it offers is a faster reload over the standard mini revolvers and the Sidewinder model with the swing out cylinder. The only issue with that Sidewinder is it pretty much has no front sight, which will make it difficult to hit even 5 yards away.

Hopefully the Ranger has a better front sight.

But back to what you're saying, how critical is it that a 2nd or 3rd gun require the fastest reload possible? Is one even going to carry 5 rounds of .22 on top of spare mags for their primary and possibly secondary?

As for the price, I don't see that going down for a while. This is not a solid frame revolver that NAA has been making for decades; this is a completely new design. They had to tool this thing up more than anything else they've ever made and that cost is going to stay with these top breaks for several years. Then there's no guarantee that this design is going to hold up. That little latch that holds the thing together is going to be under a lot of stress during shooting and it's probably a MIM part to boot.
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Old October 14, 2017, 05:48 PM   #6
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I am with Screwball...I want one.
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Old October 14, 2017, 06:37 PM   #7
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Then there's no guarantee that this design is going to hold up. That little latch that holds the thing together is going to be under a lot of stress during shooting and it's probably a MIM part to boot.

It really isn’t little...

If you look at the original Ranger, the latch was a part of the upper (lifted up), and went around a raised tab that went up from the frame (lower). Think original S&W Model 3.

The Ranger II’s latch is on the frame, and the locking tab is on the upper... similar to the Schofield redesign on that S&W. That latch is across the width of the revolver (pulled back to unlock), and is held closed with the hammer when fired. Compared to the Ranger (the designs), it is a superior system. The original design could unlock with the hammer fully forward.

Even if the parts are MIM, which isn’t bad if the QC is high enough, if you look at the two locking pieces... they both look to be replaceable. Let’s say you do launch enough rounds of .22 Magnum through a Ranger II. If you manage to wear them out... Lifetime Warranty. Even still, NAA doesn’t make garbage. If they did, you would have saw this gun released at least a year ago.
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Old November 8, 2017, 11:30 PM   #8
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It really isn’t little...

If you look at the original Ranger, the latch was a part of the upper (lifted up), and went around a raised tab that went up from the frame (lower). Think original S&W Model 3.

The Ranger II’s latch is on the frame, and the locking tab is on the upper... similar to the Schofield redesign on that S&W. That latch is across the width of the revolver (pulled back to unlock), and is held closed with the hammer when fired. Compared to the Ranger (the designs), it is a superior system. The original design could unlock with the hammer fully forward.

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Great to hear this. I️ have a few NAA’s and I️ love them, but I️ do not like how easy it is to move the cylinder when hammer is in the safe position. Just a small amount of pressure on the hammer and the cylinder could slide to a live round. Depending on my holster choice, I️ load 4 or 5 rounds.


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Old November 8, 2017, 11:44 PM   #9
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Still no answers on this, but does this gun kick the spent shells out like a Webley?

With a 2.5" bbl and maybe a larger grip would make a FUN trail blaster, especially with a .22 LR conversion cylinder.

I still have a .22 LR mini in a zip lock back, fully disassembled...

Yeah, when they tell you not to take these guns apart, THEY MEAN IT.
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Old November 9, 2017, 03:54 AM   #10
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Still no answers on this, but does this gun kick the spent shells out like a Webley?

With a 2.5" bbl and maybe a larger grip would make a FUN trail blaster, especially with a .22 LR conversion cylinder.

I still have a .22 LR mini in a zip lock back, fully disassembled...

Yeah, when they tell you not to take these guns apart, THEY MEAN IT.
It extracts and dumps shells like any other top break.

I've taken mine apart several times when I was having a timing issue. Putting it back together takes a couple hours. After the third time the cylinder wouldn't index, I just sent it back and then fixed it.
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Old November 9, 2017, 06:35 AM   #11
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Still no answers on this, but does this gun kick the spent shells out like a Webley?

With a 2.5" bbl and maybe a larger grip would make a FUN trail blaster, especially with a .22 LR conversion cylinder.

I still have a .22 LR mini in a zip lock back, fully disassembled...

Yeah, when they tell you not to take these guns apart, THEY MEAN IT.

They eject...

While that maybe the case, there really isn’t a reason to take the gun down past removing the cylinder or pulling off the grips.
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Old November 9, 2017, 09:09 AM   #12
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https://youtu.be/EOOBoPif1n8

Looks like a great concept!!
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