CCI Blazer ammo - Page 2

Drm50 · February 13, 2019, 04:06 PM

I have found a good use for Alumilum Blazer cases. It makes fine fishing lures. I have 44, 357 and 25 cal spinners.

cjwils · February 13, 2019, 05:36 PM

Some ranges pick up brass to make some money by recycling. Ranges that do that may prohibit aluminum or steel cases, because they don't want to have to sort them out of the brass.

JDBerg · February 13, 2019, 07:07 PM

I could never figure out why the industry doesn’t offer aluminum cased defensive ammo, since a carry gun would be considerably lighter in a holster with aluminum cased vs. brass cased ammo.

dogtown tom · February 13, 2019, 08:41 PM

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JDBerg I could never figure out why the industry doesn’t offer aluminum cased defensive ammo, since a carry gun would be considerably lighter in a holster with aluminum cased vs. brass cased ammo.

Have you ever weighed AL vs Brass cases?

The difference would be so minute that you wouldn't know the difference.
Heck, I'll bet 99.9% of those who carry everyday would never notice the difference between 115gr 9mm and 147gr 9mm......even in a 15 round Glock.
(Liam Neeson excluded of course

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Webleymkv · March 4, 2019, 09:18 PM

I've used the Blazer aluminum cased ammo in .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 10mm Auto, .44 Special, and .44 Magnum and the only issues I ever had was sticky extraction in a Taurus 445 .44 Special (which I suspect had slightly rough chambers). I've also used the Federal aluminum case ammo in 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP without issue. Quality has always seemed to be middle of the pack for range ammo and I'd rate it as equivalent to Remington/UMC, S&B, or Prvi Partizan, slightly less than Federal Champion/American Eagle or Fiocchi, and better than Tula/Wolf or Winchester White Box. That being said, I can usually brass case ammo for the same or lower prices, so I don't buy aluminum case ammo all that often.

Blazer Brass is decent enough quality in my experience and the brass seems to be of about average quality when reloaded. The only issue I've ever noticed is that the .45 ACP 230 gr FMJ seems to be a bit susceptible to bullet setback, but it's marketed as range ammo and for that purpose, it really shouldn't be an issue because it's unlikely for a single round to be chambered multiple times.

I do notice that the Blazer Aluminum case ammo in more powerful calibers like .357 Magnum, 10mm Auto, and .44 Magnum seems to be loaded on the light side for those calibers. Whether or not this has anything to do with the aluminum cases or rather just their assumption that most people would prefer lower-recoiling practice ammo, I do not know.

I actually do know of someone who reloaded Blazer aluminum cases (9mm if memory serves) for matches in which he wasn't allowed to pick up his spent brass. However, the amount of trouble he went through to de-prime the Berdan cases and then find Berdan primers to reload with seemed more trouble than it was worth to me.

mellow_c · March 5, 2019, 05:36 PM

I just read Webleymkv’s post, but it sounds like a lot of you are saying that Blazer brass cases are no good for reloading.

I’d like to hear more on this.

Webleymkv · March 5, 2019, 08:57 PM

Blazer brass cases are fine for reloading, I've had no issues with them in .357 Magnum or .45 ACP. Blazer aluminum cases are what I think would be more trouble than they're worth to attempt reloading.

IdaD · March 6, 2019, 12:36 PM

I've run a lot of the Federal aluminum stuff in 9mm with no issues. Seems like decent practice ammo. I don't reload so that aspect doesn't matter to me. I don't shoot steel but it seems like the negatives with it don't really apply to aluminum, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

NWPilgrim · March 6, 2019, 08:00 PM

Blazer Brass is fine for reloading!

rodfac · March 8, 2019, 09:21 AM

I'll add that Blazer brass cased 9mm 115 gr FMJ's are right up there at the top of the accuracy ranking in my 9mm's, especially so in my newest, a Sig P365. And BTW, I don't use aluminum nor steel cased ammunition in any of my guns, as I use the brass for reloading. YMMV, Rod

stinkeypete · March 10, 2019, 11:15 AM

Another question is "Is there any difference between .22L Blazer and SV" other than price....

NWPilgrim · March 11, 2019, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stinkeypete

Another question is "Is there any difference between .22L Blazer and SV" other than price....

Velocity. Blazer .22LR is about 1250fps and SV is about 1070fps. But Blazer is surprisingly accurate for bulk ammo.

silvermane_1 · March 13, 2019, 04:15 AM

Thanks for info there downtown tom, but i still wouldn't reload aluminum cases though.

February 13, 2019, 07:07 PM	#28
JDBerg Senior Member Join Date: May 18, 2015 Location: PA Posts: 1,835	I could never figure out why the industry doesn’t offer aluminum cased defensive ammo, since a carry gun would be considerably lighter in a holster with aluminum cased vs. brass cased ammo. __________________ Words to Live By: Before You Pray - Believe; Before You Speak - Listen; Before You Spend - Earn; Before You Write - Think; Before You Quit - Try; Before You Die - Live Last edited by JDBerg; February 13, 2019 at 07:17 PM.

March 8, 2019, 09:21 AM	#35
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,623	I'll add that Blazer brass cased 9mm 115 gr FMJ's are right up there at the top of the accuracy ranking in my 9mm's, especially so in my newest, a Sig P365. And BTW, I don't use aluminum nor steel cased ammunition in any of my guns, as I use the brass for reloading. YMMV, Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

March 13, 2019, 04:15 AM	#38
silvermane_1 Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2011 Location: Burien,WA Posts: 897	Thanks for info there downtown tom, but i still wouldn't reload aluminum cases though. __________________ Rugers:SR1911 CMD,MK 3 .22lr 6",Sec. Six '76 liberty .357 4",SRH .480 Ruger 7.5",Mini-14 188 5.56/.233 18.5", Marlins: 795 .22lr 16.5",30aw 30-30 20",Mossberg:Mav. 88 Tact. 12 ga, 18.5",ATR 100 .270 Win. 22",S&W:SW9VE 9mm 4",Springfield:XD .357sig 4", AKs:CAI PSL-54C, WASR 10/63, WW74,SLR-106c

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February 13, 2019, 04:06 PM	#26
Drm50 Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2014 Posts: 1,376	I have found a good use for Alumilum Blazer cases. It makes fine fishing lures. I have 44, 357 and 25 cal spinners.

February 13, 2019, 05:36 PM	#27
cjwils Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2010 Location: Washington state Posts: 401	Some ranges pick up brass to make some money by recycling. Ranges that do that may prohibit aluminum or steel cases, because they don't want to have to sort them out of the brass.

March 4, 2019, 09:18 PM	#30
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,446	I've used the Blazer aluminum cased ammo in .38 Special, .357 Magnum, 10mm Auto, .44 Special, and .44 Magnum and the only issues I ever had was sticky extraction in a Taurus 445 .44 Special (which I suspect had slightly rough chambers). I've also used the Federal aluminum case ammo in 9mm, .40 S&W and .45 ACP without issue. Quality has always seemed to be middle of the pack for range ammo and I'd rate it as equivalent to Remington/UMC, S&B, or Prvi Partizan, slightly less than Federal Champion/American Eagle or Fiocchi, and better than Tula/Wolf or Winchester White Box. That being said, I can usually brass case ammo for the same or lower prices, so I don't buy aluminum case ammo all that often. Blazer Brass is decent enough quality in my experience and the brass seems to be of about average quality when reloaded. The only issue I've ever noticed is that the .45 ACP 230 gr FMJ seems to be a bit susceptible to bullet setback, but it's marketed as range ammo and for that purpose, it really shouldn't be an issue because it's unlikely for a single round to be chambered multiple times. I do notice that the Blazer Aluminum case ammo in more powerful calibers like .357 Magnum, 10mm Auto, and .44 Magnum seems to be loaded on the light side for those calibers. Whether or not this has anything to do with the aluminum cases or rather just their assumption that most people would prefer lower-recoiling practice ammo, I do not know. I actually do know of someone who reloaded Blazer aluminum cases (9mm if memory serves) for matches in which he wasn't allowed to pick up his spent brass. However, the amount of trouble he went through to de-prime the Berdan cases and then find Berdan primers to reload with seemed more trouble than it was worth to me.

March 5, 2019, 05:36 PM	#31
mellow_c Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,862	I just read Webleymkv’s post, but it sounds like a lot of you are saying that Blazer brass cases are no good for reloading. I’d like to hear more on this.

March 5, 2019, 08:57 PM	#32
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,446	Blazer brass cases are fine for reloading, I've had no issues with them in .357 Magnum or .45 ACP. Blazer aluminum cases are what I think would be more trouble than they're worth to attempt reloading.

March 6, 2019, 12:36 PM	#33
IdaD Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2018 Location: Idaho Posts: 107	I've run a lot of the Federal aluminum stuff in 9mm with no issues. Seems like decent practice ammo. I don't reload so that aspect doesn't matter to me. I don't shoot steel but it seems like the negatives with it don't really apply to aluminum, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

March 6, 2019, 08:00 PM	#34
NWPilgrim Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,346	Blazer Brass is fine for reloading!

March 10, 2019, 11:15 AM	#36
stinkeypete Senior Member Join Date: July 22, 2010 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 1,289	Another question is "Is there any difference between .22L Blazer and SV" other than price....