357 shoots 9mm too?

Prof Young · October 9, 2018, 05:52 PM

So at range today, they had a gun in the case labeled 357/9mm. Katie the range lady was busy with a lot of customers so I didn't ask. My query is, if I get a "star clip" for 9mm can I shoot them out of my EAA 38spl/357?

Life is good.
Prof Young

TJB101 · October 9, 2018, 07:47 PM

I would venture to guess that would be a no as I believe the star / cases would protrude above the cylinder face and wouldn’t allow you to close it.

Bob Wright · October 9, 2018, 09:06 PM

What kind of gun was it? If a Ruger Blackhawk, switch cylinders in minutes from .357 Magnum to 9 mm. And no clips required.

Bob WRight

223 shooter · October 9, 2018, 09:16 PM

Probably like Bob stated - a Blackhawk convertible supplied with both a 357 and 9mm cylinder. I owned one for while , shot ok with the 9mm but I used it mainly for 357 loads.

Prof Young · October 9, 2018, 09:16 PM

TJB - you are absolutely right. If I'd thought about it I'd have realized it.

Bob - I think you are right too. That must be what it was.

So much to learn, so much to learn.

Life is good.
Prof Young

seeker_two · October 9, 2018, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Wright

What kind of gun was it? If a Ruger Blackhawk, switch cylinders in minutes from .357 Magnum to 9 mm. And no clips required.

Bob WRight

Minutes? I can swap out mine in less than 30 seconds.

I like the 9mm cylinder to shoot less-recoiling rounds from my Blackhawk without having .38Spl rounds fouling up my .357 cylinder.

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WC145 · October 11, 2018, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prof Young

So at range today, they had a gun in the case labeled 357/9mm. Katie the range lady was busy with a lot of customers so I didn't ask. My query is, if I get a "star clip" for 9mm can I shoot them out of my EAA 38spl/357?

Life is good.
Prof Young

9mm cases are tapered and larger diameter at the base than .38/.357 cases and won't fit in your chambers. Moonclips are a whole nuther issue.

rclark · October 11, 2018, 09:04 PM

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I like the 9mm cylinder to shoot less-recoiling rounds from my Blackhawk without having .38Spl rounds fouling up my .357 cylinder.

Well, you do know you can always download your .357 cartridges to .38 special velocities

. I load 158g SWCs to around 1000fps out of a 5 1/2" barreled .357. No need for the 9mm cylinder which consequently doesn't get used here.

TruthTellers · October 12, 2018, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rclark

Well, you do know you can always download your .357 cartridges to .38 special velocities

. I load 158g SWCs to around 1000fps out of a 5 1/2" barreled .357. No need for the 9mm cylinder which consequently doesn't get used here.

The purpose of the 9mm cylinder is cheap factory ammo and in the event of an alien invasion or mass reanimation of corpses, you'll have a handgun that shoots three of the most popular handgun cartridges in the world.

The best 9mm revolver is a snub revolver. Anything with a barrel 3 inches or more a .357 is better.

jar · October 12, 2018, 06:02 AM

One of my old German SAA's has both cylinders so 38 Special, .357 and 9mm.

tallball · October 14, 2018, 01:32 PM

I have two Blackhawk "convertibles", 357/9mm and 45acp/45colt. They both work great with both cylinders.

rclark · October 14, 2018, 02:08 PM

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The purpose of the 9mm cylinder is cheap factory ammo and in the event of an alien invasion or mass reanimation of corpses, you'll have a handgun that shoots three of the most popular handgun cartridges in the world

Can't argue with that

. So, until that time comes though, the 9mm cylinder will sit in the safe

.

Roamin_Wade · October 14, 2018, 04:35 PM

The Kimber "J frame" size 38/357 has a recessed face on the cylinder that I believe will allow the 9mm to be shot with the assistence of a ring clip.

WC145 · October 14, 2018, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roamin_Wade

The Kimber "J frame" size 38/357 has a recessed face on the cylinder that I believe will allow the 9mm to be shot with the assistence of a ring clip.

No, it won't. 9mm cartridges won't fit in .38/.357 chambers.

Drm50 · October 14, 2018, 06:54 PM

9mm won't fit 357 chamber and if it would there is no clearence for moon clips.
I saw a article back in 70s about a guy that had 357/9mm Ruger BH and he had
several extra cylinders allowing him to use many cartridges from 380 acp to 38
Super in auto loading cartridges and several foreign ones. I think 20 some in all.

GarrettJ · October 14, 2018, 08:05 PM

Maybe it was a Medusa 47 Revolver.

**44 AMP** · October 15, 2018, 12:30 AM

The .357 (and .38 Special) spec .379" at the case mouth and being straight cases, also .379" at the case head.

The 9mm Luger specs .391" at the case head, tapering to .380" at the mouth.

it will not fit in a standard .357 chamber.

You could make a chamber that would take both, and you also could cut the cylinder for clips to headspace the 9mm with. It can work, BUT that chamber would be .012" oversize at the case head for .357 cases. They might not split, but I'm sure they would swell a bit at the least.

Ruger Blackhawks use two different cylinders, for a good reason.

October 9, 2018, 05:52 PM	#1
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,404	357 shoots 9mm too? So at range today, they had a gun in the case labeled 357/9mm. Katie the range lady was busy with a lot of customers so I didn't ask. My query is, if I get a "star clip" for 9mm can I shoot them out of my EAA 38spl/357? Life is good. Prof Young

October 9, 2018, 07:47 PM	#2
TJB101 Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2017 Posts: 498	357 shoots 9mm too? I would venture to guess that would be a no as I believe the star / cases would protrude above the cylinder face and wouldn’t allow you to close it. Last edited by TJB101; October 9, 2018 at 08:38 PM.

October 9, 2018, 09:06 PM	#3
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 2,989	What kind of gun was it? If a Ruger Blackhawk, switch cylinders in minutes from .357 Magnum to 9 mm. And no clips required. Bob WRight __________________ Time spent at the reloading bench is an investment in contentment.

October 9, 2018, 09:16 PM	#5
Prof Young Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2007 Location: Illinois - down state Posts: 2,404	Yes and yes . . . TJB - you are absolutely right. If I'd thought about it I'd have realized it. Bob - I think you are right too. That must be what it was. So much to learn, so much to learn. Life is good. Prof Young

October 12, 2018, 06:02 AM	#10
jar Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2001 Location: Deep South Texas Posts: 1,669	One of my old German SAA's has both cylinders so 38 Special, .357 and 9mm. __________________ To be vintage it's gotta be older than me!

October 9, 2018, 09:16 PM	#4
223 shooter Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2008 Posts: 557	Probably like Bob stated - a Blackhawk convertible supplied with both a 357 and 9mm cylinder. I owned one for while , shot ok with the 9mm but I used it mainly for 357 loads.

October 14, 2018, 01:32 PM	#11
tallball Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2014 Posts: 2,444	I have two Blackhawk "convertibles", 357/9mm and 45acp/45colt. They both work great with both cylinders.

October 14, 2018, 04:35 PM	#13
Roamin_Wade Junior member Join Date: July 11, 2018 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 220	The Kimber "J frame" size 38/357 has a recessed face on the cylinder that I believe will allow the 9mm to be shot with the assistence of a ring clip.

October 14, 2018, 06:54 PM	#15
Drm50 Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2014 Posts: 1,380	9mm won't fit 357 chamber and if it would there is no clearence for moon clips. I saw a article back in 70s about a guy that had 357/9mm Ruger BH and he had several extra cylinders allowing him to use many cartridges from 380 acp to 38 Super in auto loading cartridges and several foreign ones. I think 20 some in all.

October 14, 2018, 08:05 PM	#16
GarrettJ Member Join Date: April 13, 2008 Posts: 94	Maybe it was a Medusa 47 Revolver.

October 15, 2018, 12:30 AM	#17
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,832	The .357 (and .38 Special) spec .379" at the case mouth and being straight cases, also .379" at the case head. The 9mm Luger specs .391" at the case head, tapering to .380" at the mouth. it will not fit in a standard .357 chamber. You could make a chamber that would take both, and you also could cut the cylinder for clips to headspace the 9mm with. It can work, BUT that chamber would be .012" oversize at the case head for .357 cases. They might not split, but I'm sure they would swell a bit at the least. Ruger Blackhawks use two different cylinders, for a good reason. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.