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January 5, 2014, 04:20 PM | #26 |
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Yes, they had the M4 contract and Colt still had the M16 contract. Apparently now Colt has lost that to FN as well.
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I think you have that backwards.. FN had the M16 contract, and Colt kept the M4 contract longer.
All but one M16A2 or A4 I was ever issued was made by FN. The one Colt M16A2 I was issued was in Germany, and it was probably an 80's vintage rifle. Every M4 I handled was made by Colt.
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January 5, 2014, 04:53 PM | #28 |
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OK, so I'm a little dyslexic but still, the question was, If Colt is the standard from which all others are measured just because of the TDP, then where does FN fit in?
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I'm sorry CTS, I missed your point about melonited barrels... Which of the two rifles comes with a melonited barrel? Neither? Oh, so you had no point. I'm well aware of the benefits of nitriding a barrel. MY ar has a superior barrel. NEITHER of the two rifles listed has melonited barrels. Chrome lined barrels take abuse and can handle sustained rapid fire better than chrome moly barrels. These are the only two types being compared, so does the barrel made of unobtanium on the some other company's rifle really matter? No? Great then, moving on.
Who cares if colt or fn or s&w blah blah blah. The OP only asked about the le6920 and the RRA elite operator. Why colt is/isn't/could be the best/worst company and who has what contract isn't relevant as we're not advising to buy stock.
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Who said chrome lined was the end all? And apparently you've never looked into buying a RRA. I did, talked to the distributer. It helps if you know what you're talking about. Their barrels arn't nitrided, fyi. Then again, you didn't know that...so I'm still waiting for the relevance of nitrided barrels in a discussion between two guns that doesn't offer them...?
Colts are the yard stick to which all rifles are measured. Even BCM, DD...anyone who claims to use milspec parts or parts that exceed milspec are using colt to measure themself against. I'm not saying colt is the best. Or great or bad. Them's just the breaks kid. I'm not even saying milspec is good or bad.
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Talk about not knowing what you are talking about!
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Flame war? Really?
Why don't you cool your heels and read what was written. If you want to justify your internet expertise by saying a rifle that doesn't have a nitrided barrel might have one because it doesn't say they don't, go right ahead. But thats a bit foolish. If you want to seem like an adult, don't get all defensive when someone points out the irrelevance of your argument. Who owns the TDP? Would that be colt? Yes, yes it would. Whenever post come up about AR's there is always "my xxx rifle is (just as good as a colt)(better than a colt)(milspec like a colt)" etc. Again, I'm not saying colts are the best, or better. They've just been around so long that they really are the yardstick to which AR's are compared. Without knowing what the OP wants out of the rifle there is no clear "better" choice.
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Read the text in red. Are RR's subjected to that level of QC? Nope. Thats why I chose the 6920.
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January 8, 2014, 12:25 AM | #36 |
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I'm actually wanting this one and this has been a helpful thread on what to choose. It would be the AR I take to the range all the time and my go to incase of SHTF so needless to say I'm shopping around. |
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January 8, 2014, 08:37 PM | #38 |
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I think I might start a thread on "Daisy 177 versus Noveske Afghan". Such snobby groundless nonobjective drivel in this one.
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January 9, 2014, 11:10 AM | #40 | |
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Until someone can provide concrete QA/QC & component info for the RRA rifles similar to what Colt has provided (in greyeyezz's post), there really is no room for discussion. My projection is that you won't find it because such QA/QC controls don't exist at RRA. That's not to say RRA doesn't make a great rifle that you will enjoy and be perfectly happy with. But the "better overall" comment is delusional at best. |
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What really is delusional is thinking that just because you''re buying a "Colt" and because "Colts" are .mil (some of them) that you'll be getting a better, higher quality rifle. It isn't necessarily the case. And my point is for the money, as a civ, you get way more gun with the RRA. Mil spec is only a set of parameters. And it's out-dated.
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Having a known quantity only matters when it does. These are range toys for most shooters. If you had to cash in your butt for coming up short, you might feel differently about what you carry. There's more to it than shining chrome barrels and free floating handguards. Oh, and that delusional crap talk is profiling, and I resent it.
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January 9, 2014, 04:38 PM | #43 |
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Profiling who? Not profiling anyone. I stand by the comment. For a civilian the RRA is the better gun for the given budget. Resent all you want, read the OP he wanted opinions. That's what he got.
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Well obviously brand abc is FAR better at putting holes in paper than brand def.
But, if you absolutely positively have to have a 'go-to' rifle for defensive purposes, then definitely brand ghi and xyz are proven to make things deader than any other brands out there. 64% of people who read the internet pages I do believe the same way. And 12 out of 10 ectobiologists agree that deader is better.
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You made your decision, paid for a RRA, and you like it. That's OK. No one is questioning that. We're happy for you. Unfortunately you have become too emotionally attached to a rifle you own and made a decision to purchase to weigh in rationally. The OP asked a question, and several folks here gave the OP their recommendation, and some were able to even back up that choice with objective facts as to why they made that recommendation. You have no similar objective information to to provide, so you have resorted to vague insults toward Colt owners. Life is too short to get emotionally involved in silly internet arguments. You should go out and blow off some steam by putting a few thousand rounds through your RRA. |
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January 10, 2014, 02:51 AM | #46 |
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Not quite sure how I made vague insults to colt owners. Sorry if that's how it sounded. You were the one slinging delusional.
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Also the specs used for the LE6920 are not "outdated," as, aside from the aforementioned differences, they are identical to the current TDP. |
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