Most painful rifle kick you've personally experienced - Page 3

dahermit · January 28, 2017, 08:53 PM

A .458 Winchester Magnum in a Mark X sporter. I think the bullet weight was 500 grains but I cannot remember for sure now.

But even worse than that, a Anti-Tank rifle grenade practice round from an M1 Garand (rifle grenade blank cartridge of course). I thought it had broken my shoulder.

bamaranger · January 28, 2017, 09:51 PM

I insisted on shooting 100 gr of FFF and a 370 grain maxiball in my first muzzloader, a T/C Hawken flinter. That gun and load, and the geometry of the stock and comb, hurt me more than any other to date.

These days, 70-80 grains works just fine.

reynolds357 · January 28, 2017, 10:51 PM

Did it have a brass, curved butt plate?

Hawg · January 28, 2017, 11:37 PM

Those curved butt plates go against your upper arm, not your shoulder.

natman · January 30, 2017, 12:09 PM

Tied between a Ruger #1 Tropical in 375 H&H and a lightweight sporter some guy at the range had in 300 Weatherby.

I have a 458 Mauser and a Marlin 1895 in 45-70 I shoot with 400 grain bullets @ 1800 fps. Both have a lot of recoil, but it's a slow push (OK, a BIG slow push) that you can rock back with. The Weatherby had a short quick jab, it was like getting punched in the face.

The Ruger had both; a short, quick BIG jab. I took it out to the range once, fired it from standing for 5 or 6 rounds and put it up for sale the next day.

Funny thing is I've fired other 375s and while they definitely kicked, they were nowhere near as unpleasant as the Ruger. Must be something to do with the stock fit or weight.

I also fire a 7 lb 12 ga with 2 oz turkey loads. It has a very slow kick that you can rock back with. Except for the one time I fired it at a turkey and forgot that my shoulder was leaning against a tree and had nowhere to move. Now THAT hurt!

Hawg · January 30, 2017, 02:17 PM

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I also fire a 7 lb 12 ga with 2 oz turkey loads. It has a very slow kick that you can rock back with. Except for the one time I fired it at a turkey and forgot that my shoulder was leaning against a tree and had nowhere to move. Now THAT hurt!

I was about 12 or 13 and squirrel hunting with a 12 gauge with no recoil pad. I had the butt propped on my hip bone and my finger on the trigger when I stumbled across a dead branch and pulled the trigger. Now THAT hurt.

eaglesnester · January 30, 2017, 02:41 PM

It were a very light short barreled single shot break open 12 gauge loaded with magnum rounds. It literately knocked my upper and lower false teeth plates right out of my head. My shooting partners were howling with laughter, rolling on the ground and crying, it was so funny. On a more serious note my 1895 Marlin 45/70 Govt Cowboy in 26 inch barrel is a beast. I attribute this to the 26 inch barrel. I have shot other marlins in 45/70 with 18 and 20 inch barrels and
they have more of a push than a sharp punch. I can only shoot about 9 rounds when wearing a t shirt with no padding. The next day my shoulder is black, blue, yellow, and brown from shoulder to breast. It hurts bad enough that I am knocked out of shooting for 2 weeks or so. I now only shoot it with a limb saver and a heavy jacket during hunting season up here in northern B.C. Canada. As for being recoil shy, I can assure you I am not as I reload and shoot 375H&H (pussycat) 300 Weatherby, 338/378 Weatherby mag, and 338 Lapua, and a 54 caliber cap lock that I load with 120 grains of powder and a 450 grain paper patch bullet, steel but plate and all. Have never tried the 500 nitro express or the 416ens. Have no doubt in my retired military mind that they would rock your world.
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Paul B. · January 30, 2017, 03:37 PM

"Tied between a Ruger #1 Tropical in 375 H&H and a lightweight sporter some guy at the range had in 300 Weatherby.

The Ruger had both; a short, quick BIG jab. I took it out to the range once, fired it from standing for 5 or 6 rounds and put it up for sale the next day.

Funny thing is I've fired other 375s and while they definitely kicked, they were nowhere near as unpleasant as the Ruger. Must be something to do with the stock fit or weight."

Interesting. I shoot the #1 Tropicals in .375 H&H, .404 Jeffery and .416 Rigby and while I find the .375 to not be a problem, the .404 and .416 usually are limited to only 5 rounds at the range, partly due to recoil and mostly due to cost.
Frankly, I don't shoot them much anymore as my 78 year old arthritic shoulder starts complaining much earlier than it use to.

The rifle I do find extremely painful to shoot is a Winchester M70 Stainless Classic in a synthetic stock (factory issue) that flat out beats me to death. The recoil is very sharp and sudden and it literally snaps my head back and forth.

I can actually hear a "click" that seems to be inside my head when I shoot it and get the feeling it's my brain rattling around inside my head. I end up with one very violent headache within a couple of shots. I've loaded the stock up with two pounds of lead plus a bipod bringing the weight up to 12 pounds and that tamed that beast down quite nicely. Adding a muzzle brake didn't help at all.
Paul B.

JWT · January 30, 2017, 04:56 PM

Model 70 Winchester Featherweight 30-06.

GarandTd · January 30, 2017, 07:40 PM

I was 14 or 15 at deer camp with my older brother when he handed me 10 gauge shotgun. I don't remember the make, or even the configuration. It thumped me good.

CDR_Glock · January 30, 2017, 10:32 PM

I don't shoot a lot of high powered rifles but the 3.5" Magnum in my shotgun doesn't feel good. Neither did the Mosin Nagant before I made it into an Archangel.

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El Paso Joe · January 30, 2017, 11:24 PM

The worst was a M-70 Win in 375 H&H. Second was a #3 Ruger in warm 45-70 off the bench. Still have the #3. Tend to write the 375 H&H off to youth and testosterone poisoning. Traded it, a set of dies and 19 factory loads off some years back...

natman · January 31, 2017, 11:19 AM

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Traded it, a set of dies and 19 factory loads off some years back...

When I worked in a gunshop we used to see a lot of the big kickers come back with 19 factory rounds.

FrankenMauser · January 31, 2017, 12:45 PM

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When I worked in a gunshop we used to see a lot of the big kickers come back with 19 factory rounds.

Yep. Lots and lots of stories out there - some justifiable, some likely due to poor technique on the shooter's part.

I recently bought a Marlin Model 444 (.444 Marlin) that was originally purchased with 120 rounds of ammunition.

The owner didn't particularly care for his first experience* and put everything in the back of a closet for 9 years.
So, I got the rifle and 119 rounds of ammo for a song.

*(To be honest, I don't really blame him. The M444s, in factory configuration, are not pleasant to shoot. .444 Marlin, itself, isn't all that bad; and even with the terrible ergonomics of the almost-universally-maligned H&R Handi-Rifle, it's not bad at all. But Marlin M444s tend to punish inexperienced shooters, due to the short length of pull, low comb, and hard, skinny butt plate.)

Husqvarna · February 1, 2017, 05:03 PM

575nyati

it was like 80bucks for 2 shots but you got 20 back if you fired one more

there was a long line of people who didn't take that offer

I did

when I was 10or11 I shot a family friends 300wm, and had only fired 6,5x55 before so i didn't really know what recoil was, scopebite and it put me on my ass from the bench, and my father and his friend LTAO

a 10gauge 10/89 was less fun, but I fired a couple of boxes of that so my own fault

in pistols I think those small 1911s are nasty

Husqvarna · February 1, 2017, 05:07 PM

paul b shouldn't you load up the forend? more weight at the back might make it pivot more towards your face

the stock is everything, older stocks that are made for irons are lousy when you have scopes

I fire up to 70-80 rounds of 9,3x62 each outing and it is no problem, not the heaviest loads but people inly shooting 308win or around that thinks the 9,3 is masssive

RaySendero · February 1, 2017, 07:48 PM

I've got both a light weight 458 win mag and a steel butt on my 9,3x62.
Sight'n from the bench I use a 25# shot bag filled w/ sand on my shoulder.
Between'em they have broken 2 scopes due to the recoil and have bloodied me over my eye twice.
But shooting at game I do not remember any recoil at all - Maybe they don't kick after all

Yet, I have since replaced that steel butt plate!

reynolds357 · February 2, 2017, 08:49 PM

The worst I have seen (thankfully not experienced) was a double barrel .375 H&H that both barrels went off at the same time. It broke the stock, laid the shooter out on the ground, and caused a whole lot of cussing.

tahunua001 · February 2, 2017, 10:54 PM

CMP competition with a M1917... worst decision I made in a long time.

cpt-t · February 2, 2017, 11:16 PM

Shooting a MI Garand with a Rifle Grenade attached standing up on my own hind legs off hand. After about 3 shoots I could not move right my arm up enough to scratch my face for several days. And it would darn sure make your eyes water. And I had to do this about once a month.
ken

archeratlrg · February 3, 2017, 01:46 AM

I would have to say there are two that fit that bill. First was a 300 Ackley Magnum with 220gr bullets and a hatfull of H4831. 1 shot was good for a three day headache. The other was a 460 Weatherby with 500 bullet but the 300 Ackley was the worst.

stagpanther · February 3, 2017, 02:32 AM

I just bought a new Patriot rifle in 375 ruger and it is the most powerful rifle I have ever fired--the recoil doesn't really kick your shoulder so much as throw your upper torso backward, when I come back from a shooting session my shoulder doesn't hurt--but my neck might from my head snapping back if I don't do it "just right."

mapsjanhere · February 3, 2017, 09:12 AM

Browning BLR in 450 Marlin. Owned it for 5 years, never made it through the 2 boxes of ammo I bought with it.

Deja vu · February 3, 2017, 09:23 AM

I once shot a malfunctioning Double barrel 458 winmag. Both barrels fired at the same trigger pull... Holy crap. Fortunately it was a pretty simple repair for the gun smith.

stagpanther · February 3, 2017, 09:45 AM

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I once shot a malfunctioning Double barrel 458 winmag. Both barrels fired at the same trigger pull... Holy crap.

LOL--I think you are in the running for the top body-slam award!

January 28, 2017, 09:51 PM	#52
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,303	muzzleloader I insisted on shooting 100 gr of FFF and a 370 grain maxiball in my first muzzloader, a T/C Hawken flinter. That gun and load, and the geometry of the stock and comb, hurt me more than any other to date. These days, 70-80 grains works just fine.

January 30, 2017, 03:37 PM	#58
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,802	"Tied between a Ruger #1 Tropical in 375 H&H and a lightweight sporter some guy at the range had in 300 Weatherby. The Ruger had both; a short, quick BIG jab. I took it out to the range once, fired it from standing for 5 or 6 rounds and put it up for sale the next day. Funny thing is I've fired other 375s and while they definitely kicked, they were nowhere near as unpleasant as the Ruger. Must be something to do with the stock fit or weight." Interesting. I shoot the #1 Tropicals in .375 H&H, .404 Jeffery and .416 Rigby and while I find the .375 to not be a problem, the .404 and .416 usually are limited to only 5 rounds at the range, partly due to recoil and mostly due to cost. Frankly, I don't shoot them much anymore as my 78 year old arthritic shoulder starts complaining much earlier than it use to. The rifle I do find extremely painful to shoot is a Winchester M70 Stainless Classic in a synthetic stock (factory issue) that flat out beats me to death. The recoil is very sharp and sudden and it literally snaps my head back and forth. I can actually hear a "click" that seems to be inside my head when I shoot it and get the feeling it's my brain rattling around inside my head. I end up with one very violent headache within a couple of shots. I've loaded the stock up with two pounds of lead plus a bipod bringing the weight up to 12 pounds and that tamed that beast down quite nicely. Adding a muzzle brake didn't help at all. Paul B. __________________ COMPROMISE IS NOT AN OPTION!

January 30, 2017, 07:40 PM	#60
GarandTd Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2016 Location: Rural PA Posts: 1,639	I was 14 or 15 at deer camp with my older brother when he handed me 10 gauge shotgun. I don't remember the make, or even the configuration. It thumped me good. __________________ 22lr, 20 gauge, 8mm Mauser, 35 Remington, 30-06, 5.56x45/223, 9mm, 380acp

February 1, 2017, 07:48 PM	#67
RaySendero Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2010 Location: US South Posts: 857	I've got both a light weight 458 win mag and a steel butt on my 9,3x62. Sight'n from the bench I use a 25# shot bag filled w/ sand on my shoulder. Between'em they have broken 2 scopes due to the recoil and have bloodied me over my eye twice. But shooting at game I do not remember any recoil at all - Maybe they don't kick after all Yet, I have since replaced that steel butt plate! __________________ *Ray*

February 2, 2017, 10:54 PM	#69
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	CMP competition with a M1917... worst decision I made in a long time. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

January 28, 2017, 08:53 PM	#51
dahermit Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2006 Location: South Central Michigan...near Posts: 6,501	A .458 Winchester Magnum in a Mark X sporter. I think the bullet weight was 500 grains but I cannot remember for sure now. But even worse than that, a Anti-Tank rifle grenade practice round from an M1 Garand (rifle grenade blank cartridge of course). I thought it had broken my shoulder.

January 28, 2017, 10:51 PM	#53
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	Did it have a brass, curved butt plate?

January 28, 2017, 11:37 PM	#54
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Those curved butt plates go against your upper arm, not your shoulder.

January 30, 2017, 12:09 PM	#55
natman Senior Member Join Date: June 24, 2008 Posts: 2,606	Tied between a Ruger #1 Tropical in 375 H&H and a lightweight sporter some guy at the range had in 300 Weatherby. I have a 458 Mauser and a Marlin 1895 in 45-70 I shoot with 400 grain bullets @ 1800 fps. Both have a lot of recoil, but it's a slow push (OK, a BIG slow push) that you can rock back with. The Weatherby had a short quick jab, it was like getting punched in the face. The Ruger had both; a short, quick BIG jab. I took it out to the range once, fired it from standing for 5 or 6 rounds and put it up for sale the next day. Funny thing is I've fired other 375s and while they definitely kicked, they were nowhere near as unpleasant as the Ruger. Must be something to do with the stock fit or weight. I also fire a 7 lb 12 ga with 2 oz turkey loads. It has a very slow kick that you can rock back with. Except for the one time I fired it at a turkey and forgot that my shoulder was leaning against a tree and had nowhere to move. Now THAT hurt!

January 30, 2017, 02:41 PM	#57
eaglesnester Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2007 Posts: 100	It were a very light short barreled single shot break open 12 gauge loaded with magnum rounds. It literately knocked my upper and lower false teeth plates right out of my head. My shooting partners were howling with laughter, rolling on the ground and crying, it was so funny. On a more serious note my 1895 Marlin 45/70 Govt Cowboy in 26 inch barrel is a beast. I attribute this to the 26 inch barrel. I have shot other marlins in 45/70 with 18 and 20 inch barrels and they have more of a push than a sharp punch. I can only shoot about 9 rounds when wearing a t shirt with no padding. The next day my shoulder is black, blue, yellow, and brown from shoulder to breast. It hurts bad enough that I am knocked out of shooting for 2 weeks or so. I now only shoot it with a limb saver and a heavy jacket during hunting season up here in northern B.C. Canada. As for being recoil shy, I can assure you I am not as I reload and shoot 375H&H (pussycat) 300 Weatherby, 338/378 Weatherby mag, and 338 Lapua, and a 54 caliber cap lock that I load with 120 grains of powder and a 450 grain paper patch bullet, steel but plate and all. Have never tried the 500 nitro express or the 416ens. Have no doubt in my retired military mind that they would rock your world. Cheers&Tighter Groups: Eaglesnester Did the Indians put U here? ""Twernt Mormons""

January 30, 2017, 04:56 PM	#59
JWT Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2007 Location: Southern Arizona Posts: 3,888	Model 70 Winchester Featherweight 30-06.

January 30, 2017, 10:32 PM	#61
CDR_Glock Senior Member Join Date: September 30, 2010 Posts: 704	I don't shoot a lot of high powered rifles but the 3.5" Magnum in my shotgun doesn't feel good. Neither did the Mosin Nagant before I made it into an Archangel. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

January 30, 2017, 11:24 PM	#62
El Paso Joe Senior Member Join Date: July 4, 2006 Location: Spokane Valley Posts: 340	The worst was a M-70 Win in 375 H&H. Second was a #3 Ruger in warm 45-70 off the bench. Still have the #3. Tend to write the 375 H&H off to youth and testosterone poisoning. Traded it, a set of dies and 19 factory loads off some years back...

February 1, 2017, 05:03 PM	#65
Husqvarna Senior Member Join Date: May 7, 2012 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,000	575nyati it was like 80bucks for 2 shots but you got 20 back if you fired one more there was a long line of people who didn't take that offer I did when I was 10or11 I shot a family friends 300wm, and had only fired 6,5x55 before so i didn't really know what recoil was, scopebite and it put me on my ass from the bench, and my father and his friend LTAO a 10gauge 10/89 was less fun, but I fired a couple of boxes of that so my own fault in pistols I think those small 1911s are nasty

February 1, 2017, 05:07 PM	#66
Husqvarna Senior Member Join Date: May 7, 2012 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,000	paul b shouldn't you load up the forend? more weight at the back might make it pivot more towards your face the stock is everything, older stocks that are made for irons are lousy when you have scopes I fire up to 70-80 rounds of 9,3x62 each outing and it is no problem, not the heaviest loads but people inly shooting 308win or around that thinks the 9,3 is masssive

February 2, 2017, 08:49 PM	#68
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	The worst I have seen (thankfully not experienced) was a double barrel .375 H&H that both barrels went off at the same time. It broke the stock, laid the shooter out on the ground, and caused a whole lot of cussing.

February 2, 2017, 11:16 PM	#70
cpt-t Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2012 Location: South Central Kansas Posts: 125	Shooting a MI Garand with a Rifle Grenade attached standing up on my own hind legs off hand. After about 3 shoots I could not move right my arm up enough to scratch my face for several days. And it would darn sure make your eyes water. And I had to do this about once a month. ken __________________ THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS NOT FREE:

February 3, 2017, 01:46 AM	#71
archeratlrg Junior Member Join Date: January 11, 2014 Location: Helena, MT and La Pine, OR Posts: 6	I would have to say there are two that fit that bill. First was a 300 Ackley Magnum with 220gr bullets and a hatfull of H4831. 1 shot was good for a three day headache. The other was a 460 Weatherby with 500 bullet but the 300 Ackley was the worst.

February 3, 2017, 02:32 AM	#72
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,775	I just bought a new Patriot rifle in 375 ruger and it is the most powerful rifle I have ever fired--the recoil doesn't really kick your shoulder so much as throw your upper torso backward, when I come back from a shooting session my shoulder doesn't hurt--but my neck might from my head snapping back if I don't do it "just right." __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

February 3, 2017, 09:12 AM	#73
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,832	Browning BLR in 450 Marlin. Owned it for 5 years, never made it through the 2 boxes of ammo I bought with it. __________________ I used to love being able to hit hard at 1000 yards. As I get older I find hitting a mini ram at 200 yards with the 22 oddly more satisfying.

February 3, 2017, 09:23 AM	#74
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	I once shot a malfunctioning Double barrel 458 winmag. Both barrels fired at the same trigger pull... Holy crap. Fortunately it was a pretty simple repair for the gun smith. __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...