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Old January 11, 2017, 12:36 PM   #1
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Nikon or Burris scope?

I have been looking for a new scope for my Browning ShorTrac Hog Stalker in .308Win. I had trouble with a new Vortex (reticle rotated from recoil) and a new Bushnell (bad windage adjustment). I'm now considering a Nikon Prostaff 3-9x50 or a Burris Fullfield Ballistic Plex E-1 3-9x50. The reticle on the Burris is etched into the lens, I don't know how important that is. Price on both almost the same. I don't hunt with this rifle, I love it for throwing lead at steel targets. I'd like your opinions on either of these scopes.
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Old January 11, 2017, 01:08 PM   #2
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Sorry, posted in wrong forum. Re-posted in Gear and Acessories.
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Old January 11, 2017, 02:36 PM   #3
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I've had good luck with both brands over the years so I don't have any reason to recommend one over the other. However, the idea of having a reticle etched into the lens always sounded like a good concept to me. The first scopes that I can remember that had etched reticles were late fifties/early sixties Bausch & Lomb scopes (they also came with external adjustments-another good idea, I think, if it didn't make the mounts so bulky).
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Old January 11, 2017, 03:41 PM   #4
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The Prostaff is Nikons cheapest budget scope. Not bad, but you can do better. I don't care at all for the Burris E-1 reticle. The Burris 3-9X40 FF-II has a proven track record and I think the much better scope.

The 50mm lense is just costing you a lot more money while offering no advantages. Both of your options are hunting scopes in the $330 price range. You can buy a MUCH better scope with a 40mm objective for $200-$250.

If you want to spend $300+ buy better glass, not bigger glass. And I'd be looking at something designed for target shooting rather than hunting.

Since I'm primarily a hunter and less knowledgeable about target optics I won't recommend a specific scope.
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Old January 11, 2017, 10:17 PM   #5
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Prostaff is Nikons cheapest budget scope.
Not true anymore. The Buckmasters 2 is now the budget, entry-level Nikon. The Prostaff is now partitioned into Prostaff 3,5, and 7.
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Old January 11, 2017, 10:56 PM   #6
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Which Vortex did you have the problem with? And did you send it back? They will fix or replace it no matter what happened to the scope.

I have had great luck with Burris scopes as well. I agree with jmr40 that you would probably be better served by a 40 mm objective lense.
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Old January 12, 2017, 01:28 PM   #7
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Globe, You are correct. It is now Nikon PROSTAFF, PROSTAFF 5 and PROSTAFF 7.
I would take a look at Nikon's PROSTAFF 5 for your needs. The 6741 3.5-14x40SF PROSTAFF 5 Matte BDC will bang steel all day long just about as far as you want to shoot. The BDC lets you utilize Nikon's Spot On Ballistic Program to dial in your longrange shooting to your rifle,scope and ammo. Quick focus eye piece, parallax adjustment,zero reset turrets and back by Nikon's No Fault Policy. All of that makes for outstanding accuracy and a great value for under $300. The below
chart might help out.

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Old January 12, 2017, 01:43 PM   #8
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leupold vx3 with cds is a nice unit for around 300
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Old January 14, 2017, 05:05 PM   #9
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Big Al: It was a Vortex Crossfire II, I sent it back to the seller for a refund. Their warranty department was very quick to respond but I opted for the refund.
Thanks all for your input. I ordered the Burris from Graf's for $200.

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Old January 14, 2017, 07:40 PM   #10
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Burris will have better glass for low light shooting/hunting.
Only big brand name scope I've had issues with right out of the box, was a Nikon Prostaff 5. Returned it and got a vortex and didn't regret it.

Purchased a Burris Veracity 4-20x50 FFP scope today and I'm impressed with it! Thinking of selling my Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 and replacing with a Veracity 5-25x50.
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Old January 14, 2017, 07:51 PM   #11
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Best deal I found on the veracity 5x25 was Amazon. Burris did have $100 rebate not sure if it's still going.
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Old January 14, 2017, 09:58 PM   #12
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I've been very impressed with the Nikons. Got a couple of P223, a P308, and a Series 5 with the BDC reticle. The Spot On tech is great, as I entered one of my 260 reloads into the software and got a printout of the adjusted marks.
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Old January 14, 2017, 10:08 PM   #13
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Just put a Nikon P223 on my new Windham.
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Old January 15, 2017, 08:58 AM   #14
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Burris is hard to beat. Forever warranty and in most cases, better glass at the same price point as the competitor. I would go with Burris.
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Old January 15, 2017, 01:14 PM   #15
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Geaux, You are correct that Spot On has G7 Drag tables for reloader's. Enter your load data and it will automatically enter the atmospheric conditions where you are located or you can enter the data for wherever you hunt. Very convienent and easy to use. Obviously the more accurate the data you enter the more accurate your point of impact will be. I have used Spot On to blow up soda cans and 4 inch containers of Tannerite at 400-500 and 600 yards. Believe me, that makes a believer out of someone new to Nikon's BDC Reticle scopes. You can do all this on the FREE iPhone/Android app too.

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Old January 15, 2017, 05:38 PM   #16
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I use Spot On with my BDC scopes,I like you can print it off and also when you do a 100 yard zero you can see what is the best power to set at so you get 100-200-300-400-500 yard ranges,it's fun to sit and run different bullet weights and ammo,a person can spend a lot of time messing around with the Spot On program.
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Old January 16, 2017, 12:28 AM   #17
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warranty/repair

I'm a little suspect of Nikon's warranty/repair process, 10-15 minutes of searching led me through their website, but I never did find a physical address where your riflescope should be sent. And the whole "replace or repair" (likely their decision" sounds fishy as well.

Burris took about as long as the time required to type Burris repair. It goes to Colorado, where they will fix it, no questions asked.
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Old January 16, 2017, 09:17 AM   #18
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I own both Burris and Nikon, to me one is as good as the other.
That being said when looking for a new scope I look no farther then SWFA SS, I own three and love all three of them.

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Old February 1, 2017, 04:52 PM   #19
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Here's the link if you need to send an item back to Nikon.
They have it so that a prepaid shipping label is issued to you.

http://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en/s...nd-repair.page
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Old February 10, 2017, 02:06 PM   #20
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If you are walking up on the pigs I'd go for a 1,5-6x42
Much more versatile

Just so happens nikon makes a great such scope the monarch 7
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Old February 11, 2017, 08:55 AM   #21
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We have a couple of 2-7x32 E-1 Burris. They're OK but the Vortex Crossfire is clearer and has better low light clarity.
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Old February 11, 2017, 12:10 PM   #22
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I've used both Burris and Nikon and they both have great value.

Have you considered the Zeiss Terra? Its crystal clear glass is great and you have the Zeiss name behind it for only a few hundred bucks.
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Old February 11, 2017, 03:00 PM   #23
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Apparently Nikon's MONARCH 7 1.5-6x42 with 30mm tube is only available in European markets and nott he US. I'm sure if enough foks were interested it could be modified to fit the American MONARCH 7 line of scopes. It is certainly one of my favorite mid-range scope choices for sure.
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