Picture of '58 Remmy hammer needed.

wogpotter · November 27, 2011, 10:18 AM

Actually the right hand side to be exact.

Why? well my '58 Remmy suddenly stopped locking the cylinder. I checked the spring, stripped & cleaned everything & noticed there is a "nub" of metal in the cue out flat on the lower right side of the hammer. It looks like it used to be a part that somehow wore down & I'm trying to figure out if this is my problem.

The bolt is stiff to move, but will function to pop up & lock the cylinder with a little "extra" help from a finger.

kwhi43 · November 27, 2011, 01:38 PM

Well, all right. I just happen to have a brand new one. It's for a Pietta. I
guess I will put my coffee cup down and go take a picture. If you need it
I will sell it to you. It's 12:40 now. Be back in about 1/2 hour.

kwhi43 · November 27, 2011, 02:15 PM

wogpotter · November 27, 2011, 03:25 PM

Perfect! Thank you.
Now for the $2.00 question

Can anyone tell me what the round protrusion with the little dab of grease (I hope) actually does?
Does it relate to operating the bolt & locking the cylinder?

Doc Hoy · November 27, 2011, 03:31 PM

Is it the part of the hammer that engages and cycles the bolt.

BTW. It is not uncommon for a bolt to stick in the extended position if you operate the revolver without the cylinder installed. Essentially the bolts extends too far and gets stuck in the extended position. To get the pistol to cycle with the cylinder out, you may need to push the bolt back down into its retracted position with your thumb.

The bolt will initially resist your efforts but then it will pop nto the retracted position.

This happens on about half the pistols I own.

From the overall appearance of your hammer you are ready for a new one or at least some work on this one.

mykeal · November 27, 2011, 03:35 PM

Uh, yes.

One leg of the bolt rides on the side of that cam. As the hammer is pulled back it pushes the leg up, causing the bolt to lower, until the cam rotates to the point where the side 'disappears', allowing the bolt to respond to the spring load and snap up into place in the cylinder stop notch.

wogpotter · November 27, 2011, 03:36 PM

I was afraid of that. Thanks.

wogpotter · November 28, 2011, 04:25 PM

Quote:

From the overall appearance of your hammer you are ready for a new one or at least some work on this one.

I'm confused?

I haven't posted pics of my parts yet & I thought that was a brand new hammer that was shown earlier?
This is my hammer & bolt.

& so is this, taken from a different angle.

kwhi43 · November 28, 2011, 05:03 PM

Yes, mine is new. I'm looking for a Hand for my Uberti Cattleman.

madcratebuilder · November 29, 2011, 09:18 AM

Quote:

I'm confused?
I haven't posted pics of my parts yet & I thought that was a brand new hammer that was shown earlier?
This is my hammer & bolt.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...p/DSCF8683.jpg

& so is this, taken from a different angle.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...p/DSCF8684.jpg

The hammer appears new and the cam appears to need some hand fitting. The surface needs to be smooth, no sharp edges.

wogpotter · November 29, 2011, 09:51 AM

Sorry to be so dense, but which hammer appears new mine or his?

Mine has seen use, but has developed a problem I'm trying to sort out so are you saying the sloping surface on mine is too rough?

kwhi43 · November 29, 2011, 11:25 AM

wogpotter · November 29, 2011, 01:19 PM

Thanks!

I need to take a picture of mine from exactly that angle.
As I learn how the 2 parts interact I'm beginning to get the feel that the bottom edge of my cam (on the left in your latest pic) has worn a depression & that may be what's causing the problem as the bolt's leg tries to ride up that surface to reset.

kwhi43 · November 29, 2011, 01:43 PM

Hawg · November 29, 2011, 02:34 PM

Judging from the wear on the bolt lug I'd say it's rubbing the side of the hole where it goes thru the frame and binding up, forcing the leg off the cam.

wogpotter · November 29, 2011, 05:19 PM

Well this may be the answer. I tore the action down again & smoothed & polished the scallop in the bottom edge of the cam, It took some work, but the leg now operates much more smoothly. I'm thinking the combination of the dragging bolt & the gnarly ramp on the cam probably overstressed a weak point & it went south.

Then the spring went *clik* & snapped off the leg going to the cam so I ordered a couple of replacements from VTI.

wogpotter · November 30, 2011, 05:52 PM

Quick update.
I've been informed you can order just the cam

Of course you have to install it & orient it correctly, but I figure I have nothing to lose at this point. The worst that could happen would be to need a new hammer, which is right where I am now!

I'll keep you all posted.

November 27, 2011, 10:18 AM	#1
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Picture of '58 Remmy hammer needed. Actually the right hand side to be exact. Why? well my '58 Remmy suddenly stopped locking the cylinder. I checked the spring, stripped & cleaned everything & noticed there is a "nub" of metal in the cue out flat on the lower right side of the hammer. It looks like it used to be a part that somehow wore down & I'm trying to figure out if this is my problem. The bolt is stiff to move, but will function to pop up & lock the cylinder with a little "extra" help from a finger. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

November 27, 2011, 02:15 PM	#3
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	Is this what you wanted?

November 27, 2011, 03:25 PM	#4
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Perfect! Thank you. Now for the $2.00 question Can anyone tell me what the round protrusion with the little dab of grease (I hope) actually does? Does it relate to operating the bolt & locking the cylinder? __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

November 27, 2011, 03:31 PM	#5
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	That is the cam Is it the part of the hammer that engages and cycles the bolt. BTW. It is not uncommon for a bolt to stick in the extended position if you operate the revolver without the cylinder installed. Essentially the bolts extends too far and gets stuck in the extended position. To get the pistol to cycle with the cylinder out, you may need to push the bolt back down into its retracted position with your thumb. The bolt will initially resist your efforts but then it will pop nto the retracted position. This happens on about half the pistols I own. From the overall appearance of your hammer you are ready for a new one or at least some work on this one. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

November 27, 2011, 03:36 PM	#7
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	I was afraid of that. Thanks. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

November 27, 2011, 01:38 PM	#2
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	Well, all right. I just happen to have a brand new one. It's for a Pietta. I guess I will put my coffee cup down and go take a picture. If you need it I will sell it to you. It's 12:40 now. Be back in about 1/2 hour.

November 27, 2011, 03:35 PM	#6
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	Uh, yes. One leg of the bolt rides on the side of that cam. As the hammer is pulled back it pushes the leg up, causing the bolt to lower, until the cam rotates to the point where the side 'disappears', allowing the bolt to respond to the spring load and snap up into place in the cylinder stop notch.

November 28, 2011, 05:03 PM	#9
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	Yes, mine is new. I'm looking for a Hand for my Uberti Cattleman.

November 29, 2011, 09:51 AM	#11
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Sorry to be so dense, but which hammer appears new mine or his? Mine has seen use, but has developed a problem I'm trying to sort out so are you saying the sloping surface on mine is too rough? __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

November 29, 2011, 11:25 AM	#12
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	Here is another picture of my new one.

November 29, 2011, 01:19 PM	#13
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Thanks! I need to take a picture of mine from exactly that angle. As I learn how the 2 parts interact I'm beginning to get the feel that the bottom edge of my cam (on the left in your latest pic) has worn a depression & that may be what's causing the problem as the bolt's leg tries to ride up that surface to reset. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

November 29, 2011, 01:43 PM	#14
kwhi43 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,393	Here's a Comparsion Between Yours & Mine

November 29, 2011, 02:34 PM	#15
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Judging from the wear on the bolt lug I'd say it's rubbing the side of the hole where it goes thru the frame and binding up, forcing the leg off the cam.

November 29, 2011, 05:19 PM	#16
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Well this may be the answer. I tore the action down again & smoothed & polished the scallop in the bottom edge of the cam, It took some work, but the leg now operates much more smoothly. I'm thinking the combination of the dragging bolt & the gnarly ramp on the cam probably overstressed a weak point & it went south. Then the spring went clik & snapped off the leg going to the cam so I ordered a couple of replacements from VTI. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

November 30, 2011, 05:52 PM	#17
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Quick update. I've been informed you can order just the cam Of course you have to install it & orient it correctly, but I figure I have nothing to lose at this point. The worst that could happen would be to need a new hammer, which is right where I am now! I'll keep you all posted. __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”