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Old April 29, 2008, 09:43 AM   #1
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concealable non-1911 45

What is the most concealable non-1911 45.acp?
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Old April 29, 2008, 09:46 AM   #2
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Old April 29, 2008, 10:00 AM   #3
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I prefer the S&W 4513, and CS45. Light weight, 6+1 capacity, reliable, concealable, and accurate. Very underated pistols. Regards 18DAI.
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Old April 29, 2008, 10:05 AM   #4
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Old April 29, 2008, 10:06 AM   #5
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I'd think the most concealable would be the Kahr P45. You also have the Glock 36/30 and HK 45c.
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Old April 29, 2008, 10:12 AM   #6
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Old April 29, 2008, 10:40 AM   #7
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Kahr PM45

I think the answer to "smallest" is the Kahr PM45, which is smaller than the P45. The PM45 weighs 19.3 ounces empty, holds 5+1 rounds, and has a 3.14 inch barrel. Here is a picture from the website:

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Old April 29, 2008, 10:58 AM   #8
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other than 1911

I think your question has been answered. The Kahr PM 45 is probably the smallest and thinnest semi to be had not just in 45 but in 9mm and 40sw as well. The Kahr's are pricey though but are of good quality and reliability as long as you stick to factory brand Kahr magazines. The Smith Chiefs special i agree is the most underrated subcompact 45acp and in test going head to head with the Glock 36 the thin sub 45 vs the 30 the Chiefs special did much better in the "Guns" magazine test and evaluation. There is another decent 45acp people haven't mentioned the Proseries Taurus Pro 45acp, they have the single stack thin grip model as well as the double stack and I think they have good write ups on performance though I don't own one.
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Old April 29, 2008, 11:23 AM   #9
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I'll third the PM45. You're not going to get much more concealable than a Kahr PM-series in most calibers, especially .45. Otherwise, there's not much out there that's easier than a small 1911.
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Old April 29, 2008, 01:41 PM   #10
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Thanks for your suggetsions. I now have a shopping list to try out.
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Old April 29, 2008, 01:47 PM   #11
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To add to the mix there is the Taurus .45 concealable
http://www.taurususa.com/products/pr...ategory=Pistol
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Old April 29, 2008, 03:49 PM   #12
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I must agree, the Taurus PT 145 is the smallest 45 with the highest capacity (10+1). It is also very inexpensive, reliable, has a great feel in the hand, and did I mention inexpensive. You can't go wrong, just buy a newer one (the PT-145 Pro). They go bang everytime you pull the trigger and did I mention they are inexpensive. You can buy a stainless and a blue PT 145 with a few boxes of ammo for what you will spend on a Kahr. Enjoy
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Old April 29, 2008, 04:10 PM   #13
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The Taurus PT145 is the only Taurus I own. Its a great, concealable .45.
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Old April 29, 2008, 04:16 PM   #14
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Glock 36 is flat as a board, and thin, but a decent grip too, I got small hands and there is plenty of room for my pinkie. Have not shot one but I love its feel. Check one out. 6+1 IIRC. The mags are also very thin (shocking to see on a Glock even though single column). I'd just as soon back it up with a Kel-Tec .32.
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Old April 29, 2008, 04:48 PM   #15
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Semmerling LM4.

No longer in production. About $4,000 if you can find one.
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Old April 29, 2008, 05:56 PM   #16
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Being so lihgt, does the PM45 shoot worth a damn though?
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Old April 29, 2008, 06:57 PM   #17
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Check out the Sig P220 compact.
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Old April 29, 2008, 07:29 PM   #18
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or a P245
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Old April 29, 2008, 08:01 PM   #19
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I'd go with a sig P220 carry or 245 or Glock 36.

I'd not buy a tarus or kahr product... definalty not for CCW!!! Tarus quality control is lower than whale dung and Kahr has had issues making 9mm guns that work, I want a 45 from them why?

The semmerling is cool but it's not a semi-auto you have to flick / manipulate it to cycle rounds

When I find an AMT backup in 45 cheap I will buy it and either be happy as it work OK as intended, be frustrated and get it to work with tinkering or not and end up making a lamp out of it or something.... But at lieast I am going into that purchase with eyes wide open...
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Old April 29, 2008, 08:13 PM   #20
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RsqVet-You may have problems with Kahr and Taurus but plenty of others have not. Any company can and will have lemons. Can't speak for Kahr but I know Taurus will stand behind their products. Never had to send one back and I don't own my 24/7 anymore but not because of problems. It was 100% reliable and accurate. I carried it a few times until I bought a few better options, mainly the sp101. Just because you see posts on message boards about Taurus doesn't mean the majority of buyers aren't satisfied...you just don't hear from them as much. Whether you buy a 350$ Taurus or a 3000$ full custom 1911 if it's a carry gun you're gonna shoot it enough to know you can count on it when you need it. That's why I don't tell someone to not consider a manufacturer just because they don't carry a 1,000$ plus price tag. It was kind of unclear if you were saying you wouldn't buy one or telling him not to but either way you're entitled to your opinion. Is the dislike for those two manufacturers something you've experienced? Which models did you own and what problems?
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