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Old September 8, 2019, 02:16 PM   #1
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.450 Bushmaster tips?

I just purchased a .450 Bushmaster in the AR type. Just wanted to see if anyone had any reloading experiences, tips, advice, recipes, etc. Thank you.
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Old September 8, 2019, 04:00 PM   #2
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I've still got some Hornady factory 250s left, which shoot into one 3/4" hole. Get Hornady X, Hornady dies, a can of Lil'Gun, some 250 FTX bullets, and you're set. Other than the accuracy, the recoil compares to a 20ga pump. I absolutely love mine.
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Old September 9, 2019, 07:23 AM   #3
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"I've still got some Hornady factory 250s left, which shoot into one 3/4" hole." How many shots, at what distance?
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Old September 9, 2019, 09:06 AM   #4
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Multiple 5 shot at 50 yards.
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Old September 9, 2019, 02:15 PM   #5
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My advice is don't reload for it. Hornaday puts voodoo or something on the factory loads. They are tack drivers. I can usually find them for less than $20 per box. Using the same bullet, I can't load them any cheaper.
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Old September 9, 2019, 04:47 PM   #6
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Where do you “usually find them”, even at CTD they’re over $28/box plus shipping.....almost $32/box at Midway.



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Old September 9, 2019, 05:00 PM   #7
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I get excellent results using Barnes Spit-Fire TMZ 250 grain with 35.5 Lil Gun. C.O.L. is 2.250. Yes, they are smoke pole bullets; obviously just toss the sabots. They are .451, work great in my Ruger American Ranch. Slightly under 1” at 100.
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Old September 9, 2019, 07:06 PM   #8
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Yep, can't find any less than 31.99.
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Old September 9, 2019, 07:21 PM   #9
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Hornady 250 FTX are $28 at Grafs. Better buying bulk at Grafs though.
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Old September 9, 2019, 07:26 PM   #10
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I got some Hornady on sale last fall for $24.99 at Theisen's. That's a farm supply store based in Iowa.
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Old September 9, 2019, 09:23 PM   #11
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I bought a pile of them from Midway and Palmetto State for under $20 per box about a year and a half ago. At $30 a box I would definitely reload.
I just looked at Midway. It looks like the ammo has been renamed "black". Guess that black box is worth $11.
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Old September 9, 2019, 10:39 PM   #12
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I have shot the Hornady FTX in an 18" carbine chambered in 454 Casull to about the same velocity as the 450 BM (@2200) and had explosions and poor penetration twice in hogs and once on a deer. No longer use them for hunting. The Barnes 275 grs TSX however has been fantastic on hogs. All shots under 100 yards, most under 50, have shot six hogs with Barnes at just over 2050 fps and all but one have been through and through, destroying heart and lungs or breaking spine in the neck. The one recovered was a bad shoulder shot found up against hide in the off shoulder. Looked like a commercial. Almost perfect flower with only one and a half petals broken off. Very impressed with that bullet.
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Old September 10, 2019, 07:54 PM   #13
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Good for you, but that is hardly “usually finding them...” More like a one-time close out.



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Old September 12, 2019, 04:05 PM   #14
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I get excellent results using Barnes Spit-Fire TMZ 250 grain with 35.5 Lil Gun. C.O.L. is 2.250. Yes, they are smoke pole bullets; obviously just toss the sabots. They are .451, work great in my Ruger American Ranch. Slightly under 1” at 100.
I've also heard that if you are shooting this round out of an AR platform it is best to double crimp. Does anyone know anything about this? Thx
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Old September 12, 2019, 06:07 PM   #15
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Good for you, but that is hardly “usually finding them...” More like a one-time close out.



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That's the only 2 times I have ever looked for them. Not close out. Regular price. Only sale was free shipping.
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Old September 12, 2019, 08:31 PM   #16
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Around here in West Michigan, your looking at 30-35 dollars a box for the Hornady Black Box. I have the Ruger Scout Rifle and have been working on reloading for it, been experimenting with H110 and Accur 1680 and the 250 gr ftx Hornady bullet. Leaning towards H110 from my test results, made some more after adjusting the powder weight. Hopefully I can shoot them this weekend
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Old September 12, 2019, 11:01 PM   #17
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I just loaded my first 250grain .450 rounds tonight. Some at 37.5 and 38.5 grains of H110 with CCI 450 primers. Will run them through the chrono and see what I like before I reload 50 or so.
It really is a fun round out of a 10.5” SBR.

I just saw that Buds has factory rounds for under $24 with free shipping if anyone is interested https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...+250+grain+fxt

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Old September 18, 2019, 07:25 PM   #18
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Targa, your similar to my recipe. They roar out of the Ruger Scout with that compensater on the barrel, a decent fireball also. Trying to find some more info on .45 acp bullet, 230 gr to load into the .450 cases. Checked the recipe in the Lee Book with Accur 1680, nearly filled the case with starting grain weight.
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Old September 18, 2019, 08:16 PM   #19
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^^^ Good to hear. I am trying to duplicate the Hornady Black Box ammo.
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Old September 19, 2019, 05:31 AM   #20
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I've also heard that if you are shooting this round out of an AR platform it is best to double crimp. Does anyone know anything about this? Thx
Be careful! the round headspaces on the rim so crimping may not what you are used to. I dont reload this. If I did, I would expect the sizer to set some heavy neck tension, no crimp. Obviously watch your case length. It is all a little to critical for me. But, dont let my nervous scare you off.
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Old September 19, 2019, 07:41 AM   #21
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I think you meant to say it headspaces on the case mouth. This means a taper crimp may be applied, as long as the mouth diameter is kept between 0.4720–0.4800 inches.
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Old September 19, 2019, 05:55 PM   #22
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Targa, your similar to my recipe. They roar out of the Ruger Scout with that compensater on the barrel, a decent fireball also. Trying to find some more info on .45 acp bullet, 230 gr to load into the .450 cases. Checked the recipe in the Lee Book with Accur 1680, nearly filled the case with starting grain weight.
The new Sierra manual and Western manual both have 450 load data with 230 FMJ.
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Old September 19, 2019, 08:23 PM   #23
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Thanks for the source.
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Old September 20, 2019, 08:39 PM   #24
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ammoseek.com

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/horn...-p-109813.aspx
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Old October 6, 2019, 07:55 AM   #25
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Good morning, just wanted to update you on my .450 BM reloads. Finally got to the range, I chronograph’d five rounds of factory Hornady black box .450’s with an average velocity of 2006 FPS and a max deviation between high and low at 56 FPS. I did the same with five of my reloads at 37.5 grains of H110 and had a average velocity of 2001 FPS with a deviation of 43 FPS.
I was trying to get as close to factory loads as possible, I am pretty happy with these. Also Chaparral I had no crimp issues, I just followed the directions for my Lee Factory Crimp die and they turned out well.
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