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Yep, thars why Shilen makes barrels. Seriously though, 700 is fine for a hunting rifle but definitely impractical for benchrest.
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This is also my opinion...
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I have a 6.5prc, it's not magic. So far I really like it but it's not some magic unicorn. I didn't get mine for long range competition, it's a hunting rifle with a 24" sporter weight barrel (Sauer 100 Atecama). It's accurate, I find the perceived recoil to be slightly less than my .270 but not by a large margin. I'm just starting to develop tuned handloads for, but right out of the box it's just fine MOA no problem. I think it's got a small edge on the 270 but not enough to justify replacing a good shooting 270 with a 6.5prc. I like it, plan on keeping it and honestly that's enough for me. Get what you want and shoot it.
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The Sauer 100 has a threaded barrel, unlike some previous designs with press-fit barrels.
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I am sure someone has already stated this in this thread, but IMO 400-600 yard shots on game are more about the shooter's ability than the capability of the cartridge.
If conditions were right, I would feel confident enough to take a 400 yard shot with any of my rifles. My 22 lr being the exception. My thing is if you want to shoot 400 yards and be proficient, practice at 500+ yards.
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Of course, you're right, Don Fischer.
I recall one day there was a 4 ft x 4ft sheet of plywood set as a target holder at 500 yards. I put an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of paper at the bottom and set the horizontal cross hair of my 12-power Burris scope with a standard vertical reticle at the top edge of the plywood sheet and fired a 100gr HP out of my .270. The hole in the paper was about 42" low. I put a 9" white balloon in place of the paper, repeated the hold and popped the balloon. A white tail buck at 500 yards does not have a 4x4 sheet of plywood just behind him. Good luck guessing where to hold on that vertical reticle. Now I also have a Nikon M-308 scope on my 6.5 Creedmoor with hashmarks and dots all the way out to 800 yards on the vertical reticle. But to repeat that balloon feat I'd have to repeat the plywood/paper shot and match the hashmark or dot at 500 yards. Then do the same thing at 300-400-600 or whatever range I expect to take that shot at a buck who shows up somewhere out there. I really have no interest in doing that but my friend is dedicated ever since he saw a "booner" through his binoculars when he was in the midwest and was convinced he could make that shot if only he knew where to hold that reticle. So.....someday......maybe.... |
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A friend took some successful hunters out on his acreage to shoot at targets at ranges known to him but not them. They had all the advantages, steady position, stationary, clearly visible targets. They were all done by 300 meters, most at less.
Another friend's prize elk was from ca 450 yards. He had the leading trick reticle of the day, the Shepherd. I asked him which ring he used for his .300 Win Mag at that range. He said, "I just held the crosshairs over his back and shot until I hit him." |
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a long way
As has been noted now by several posters, 400-600 yds is quite a poke. I don't know about the OP's "friend", but I wouldn't be confident shooting at any big game animal at such distances.
Rangefinders and optics have changed the game, but what hasn't change is the wind, shooters ability (or lack of it) from field positions, and animal behavior. Shooters without a laser will need to be good at range estimations. Long distance hunting is all the rage these days, but most game is likely killed under 300 yds,and with whitetails, I'd wager under 100. For anybody considering such long shots, I'd suggest the following. Take a standard white paper plate 9-10" in diameter and staple it to a tomato stake. That is the vitals of your "trophy deer". Find a place you can safely shoot 5-600yds.......and that won't be easy for a lot of us. With your rifle, from field set ups, (say over a pack) without ranging shots or sighters, in a reasonable time frame to simulate hunting conditions, take a shot. I'd bet over 75% of folks trying that will miss, especially if it is not a known distance. A miss laterally due to poor wind read, is a possible gut shot, and a low shot, due to error in ranging, is a possible broken leg. Heck, a lot of folks will miss that shot at half the distance. |
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6.5 PRC vs 264 Win Mag
If a person really wanted to know which caliber is shooting the best at ELR . Then just look at the Results of the competition in King Of The ONE Mile or King Of The 2 MILE. They also see what everyone is shooting of the top 90.
The 6.5 PRC is in the top 10 and Top 20 ranking s a bunch of times. The 264 Win. Mag does not even make the list at all. |
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