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Old January 21, 2020, 07:00 PM   #26
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Your right guys,,,,, I think a .357 is a little on the small side for deer and hogs.

The .44 mag is the way to go (Or larger)
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Old January 22, 2020, 10:42 AM   #27
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Most all of my hunting was with a handgun until I was about fifty and my eyesight did not lend well to handgun hunting. I never liked a scope on a handgun (though I tried a few), mainly because it was just to bulky to carry and to nose heavy to sight without a support every time. Some folks do well with scoped handguns, but they are not for me. I have since turned more to rifles, but I learned a few things during those years of handgun hunting.

One of the things I learned was that, although a .357 could take down a deer, it was not the best handgun cartridge for the job. .41 mag is an improvement, but I settled on .44 Mag, .45 Colt and .454. A .429 to .451 diameter bullet is good medicine for most any critter in North America. I never used expanding bullets, but stuck with cast for .44 Mag and .45 Colt or jacketed for the .454, but never used hollow points for hunting; they are not necessary, the bullet diameter is sufficient.

I have handgun hunted Mule deer, Whitetail, Puma, Javelina, Black bear and elk with handguns, and I think the only critter out of those listed that might have been reasonable for a .357 would be Javelina. All the rest I would recommend a big bore.

Your 7.5” 44Mag should do just fine; practice with it until you get good. I would urge you to get good with what you have instead of buying another .357...of course you could buy it anyway, because, well because we always need another gun.
Have you considered a red dot sight? My go-to favorite, the Ultradot 30 weighs only 4-ounces.
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Old January 22, 2020, 11:11 AM   #28
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Old January 22, 2020, 02:01 PM   #29
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While a 7.5" .44 Magnum is obviously considered to be an excellent hunting revolver, it does you no good if you can't shoot it well. However, before you go out and buy another gun, I'd ask why you can't shoot your .44 Magnum well. Too much recoil? Sight difficult for you to see? Grip doesn't fit your hand? Trigger doesn't agree with you? Have you had another shooter try the gun to verify that the problem is with the shooter and not an issue like oversized chamber throats or some kind of barrel damage?

The reason I ask these things is because all of them can potentially be addressed with the gun you have at much less expense than buying another gun. If you can sort out your accuracy issues with your .44 Magnum, then I don't think many would argue that you'll have a more appropriate hunting revolver than a .357 Magnum would be.

If, however, you can't sort out the problem with your .44 then you're obviously better off with a less powerful gun that you can shoot well. While some will recommend a .41 Magnum, that has issues of its own not the least of which is ammunition cost and availability (you didn't mention whether you handload or not). Also, having previously owned a S&W Model 57 with an 8 3/8" barrel, I found the difference in recoil between most commonly available .41 Magnum and .44 Magnum loading to be negligible (Winchester's 175 gr Silvertip .41 Mag was the exception with notably lighter recoil but it's really a rather light .41 Magnum load and would not be my first choice to hunt with).

If you do decide to go with a .357 Magnum, I would recommend full power loadings with heavy, controlled-expansion bullets (158 gr minimum and 180 gr would be better). Buffalo Bore's 180 gr JHP (which looks to be loaded with Hornady XTP bullets), Hornady's 158 gr XTP, Federal's 180 gr Swift A-Frame, the 180 gr semi-jacketed hollowpoint loadings from Federal and Remington, or any of the commonly available 158 gr JSP loadings. If you're a handloader, something like a 180 gr Hornady XTP over a heavy charge of H110/Winchester 296 would seem ideal.
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Old January 22, 2020, 02:08 PM   #30
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Ruger Blackhawk SS 6.5in 357.

180grn XTP 14.3grn VV N110.
Close to 1400fps with that load, and that Blackhawk can hold up to them, longer than I'll be around to shoot them.
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Old January 22, 2020, 03:29 PM   #31
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Ruger Blackhawk SS 6.5in 357.

180grn XTP 14.3grn VV N110.
Close to 1400fps with that load, and that Blackhawk can hold up to them, longer than I'll be around to shoot them.
I guess you already know that load exceeds VihtaVouri published maximum load?
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Old January 22, 2020, 03:33 PM   #32
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Have you considered a red dot sight? My go-to favorite, the Ultradot 30 weighs only 4-ounces.
I have. Much better than a scope, and I am considering the option. I will check out that Ultradot 30...thanks!
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Old January 22, 2020, 05:47 PM   #33
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I've used two different revolvers with equal success. Both are equipped with UltraDot 30 red dot sights, and both are extremely accurate with my handloads.

S&W model 629 Classic 6½" 44 Magnum


Magnum Research BFR 5" 454 Casull
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Old January 23, 2020, 08:52 AM   #34
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Killed several deer with the .357 Magnum, and not impressed. Now the .45 Colt on the other hand, puts them down with authority!
Definitely agree. My 45 Colt with a 280gr RCBS SAA at 1050 blows through deer and hogs from any angle - with AUTHORITY! With 10gr of Unique, no blast and very comfortable to shoot.
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Old January 23, 2020, 09:05 AM   #35
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GT,

I use the very same bullet cast as a hollowpoint.

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Old January 24, 2020, 09:55 AM   #36
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I guess you already know that load exceeds VihtaVouri published maximum load?

Yes, I do. .3 grns to be exact.
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Old January 24, 2020, 05:13 PM   #37
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I no longer hunt deer with revolvers due to eye problems. But when I did ai used the following with great success. A 4" S&W M19 from 1972, a S&W 686 no dash 6", a three screw .44 mag Ruger Super BlackHawk and a 6.5" Ruger .41 mag three screw BlackHawk. I killed more with the .357s but prefer the .41 mag for the job.
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Old January 24, 2020, 08:03 PM   #38
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Ruger SRH. Home cast 240 SWC. Lots of 2400 behind it. The deer I shot with it did not take a step and the bullet went through quartering away from me. I had a 2-6x scope in ruger mounts.
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Old January 25, 2020, 09:41 PM   #39
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Have used followingfor deer and hiking.

Ruger SS6 4" .357Mag using 140gr XTP, alsoforWA Cascades hiking for BlackBear using the Fedral 180 Hotcast lead .

1911 with 230gr FMJ and XTP

RFugar Blackhawk 7.5" .45 LC using Sierra 240gr HC over blue dot

Range fired all loads to best groupings on a paper plate.

Have a T/C Contender but haven't use it for hunting YET!
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41 magnum, 6.5 inch Ruger Blackhawk.
Me too with Hornady® 210gr XRP® ammunition...
https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/handgun/41-rem-mag-210-gr-xtp#!/
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Old January 26, 2020, 05:14 PM   #41
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I’ve always wanted a big beautiful model 27 to hunt deer with. It doesn’t matter I already have a collection of 44 mags and other hunting handguns.

Go get the next gun on your wish list. You’re okay on caliber. I’ve done well with heavy.357 semi jacket soft points.

Don’t know what happened to this forum. Used to be full of enablers and fixers. Go practice with the gun you have?!?!? What kind of nonsense is that.

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Old January 26, 2020, 05:42 PM   #42
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I use a 629 quite regularly. The key thing is practice and confidence. Granted they both go hand in hand. Can the .357 work? Sure. I’ve used a GP100 until I got comfortable with my 629. Now, I’m comfortable with my 629 to around 100yds. I didn’t get to that point over night either. It took me close to 15 years. That was also because I didn’t practice as regularly as I would’ve liked to.
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Old January 26, 2020, 06:41 PM   #43
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I started handgun hunting 25+ years ago with a scoped Ruger Super Redhawk. I did pretty good with it over the years. My tastes have switched and I now use scoped T/C Contenders.

But, I still use a non-scoped Ruger Super Blackhawk as my short range hunting handgun.

I also have a Ruger Blackhawk and a Ruger GP100 both in .357 Magnum in my arsenal.
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Old January 28, 2020, 09:07 AM   #44
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You already have the gun....that 7.5 inch .44. I suggest that you spend the money on ammo and practice until you are accurate with the gun as opposed to buying a new gun. (unless you just want a new gun)
Yep, in spades...we owe the game we hunt a quick and efficient demise. DRT is the goal, or with a minimal amount of trail up after the shot. A big caliber will help towards that goal. Rod
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Old January 31, 2020, 09:14 AM   #45
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If recoil is the problem with the 44 why not buy / or if you hand load , load some 44 specials to use out of it ?. If it’s grips or trigger reach swap them out. Myself I have large hands, I landed on a set of wood hogue grips for my SRH as it had a larger palm swell to fill my hand. Lighter trigger and hammer springs are cheap as well as hammer and trigger shims.
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