April 19, 2019, 07:07 PM | #1 |
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1863 springfield
Has anyone else seen a 1863 springfield rifled musket with a bead front sight? My brother has one and I have borrowed it to check for value and possible cleaning and maybe shoot...
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April 19, 2019, 07:56 PM | #2 |
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No, Does it still have rifling? Many of these had the rifling removed and used for shotguns.
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April 19, 2019, 07:56 PM | #3 |
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You mean an actual shotgun bead, and not this http://www.civilwararsenal.com/wp-co...ebd4l0001.jpg?
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April 19, 2019, 09:24 PM | #4 |
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Not sure of rifling yet, the bore is VERY dirty, I did throw a patch puller down it, flashlight showed something at the bottom, was just some old paper bits.
Wasn’t sure if cleaning the barrel at least would affect any kind of value, never been around a firearm this old before |
April 19, 2019, 09:25 PM | #5 |
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Actual bead, I’ll take a couple pic in a few
No ram rod either unfortunately.... pic link at the top Last edited by sully2311; April 19, 2019 at 10:17 PM. |
April 20, 2019, 04:08 AM | #6 |
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If it has a bead then it was added later. What is the barrel length?
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April 20, 2019, 02:12 PM | #7 |
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Barrel end to tang end....35 in.
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April 20, 2019, 05:17 PM | #8 |
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Barrel length for a 61 Springfield is 40 inches minus the tang so it's been cut. The stock has been cut down and most likely the rifling has been reamed out. It's also been aggressively cleaned. Value is around 300 bucks and you might have to wait awhile to get that from somebody that wants a war date lock.
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April 20, 2019, 05:38 PM | #9 |
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Wow! Aggressively cleaned? It is all grimed and dirty... do you mean the wear down of the lock sides and the barrel? Sorry, don’t mean to be stupid about it.
My brother doesn’t care of the value, wants to clean it up some and make a wall hanging center piece of some kind. Thanks Hawg! |
April 20, 2019, 06:10 PM | #10 |
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I didn't see any patina on the barrel, just white steel.
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April 20, 2019, 06:15 PM | #11 |
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Ah, ok, yeah, the whole barrel is just spotted and such, no bluing left at all
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April 20, 2019, 06:37 PM | #12 |
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The original Springfield came in the white (no bluing at all).
I'm just seeing the original naturally-aged (tho' neglected) steel. ...and yes, someone soldered a bead on as a sight |
April 20, 2019, 07:05 PM | #13 |
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Huh... ok, I appreciate you all! Thanks again!
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