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October 30, 2013, 07:56 AM | #1 | |
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Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted, 2012
The FBI released Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted, 2012 this week. It's not just firearms related but useful information for anyone to understand the dangers that police officers face.
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I wonder why she didn't wait for backup. It's Brevard County which is kind of spread out- was backup that far away? Also, why approach the vehicle at all, when the suspect is suspected of committing a violent felony? It seems she would have a much better chance from the cover of her car. Of course, this is with 20/20 hindsight. Not really tactics and training related, but it irks me that someone with a record like this "violent crime, drug violations, police assault, and weapons violations, " was out on the street. |
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Just talking about statistics is not that useful to me. I find the Summaries in LEOKA to be the most useful part. As I tell every class of Police Officers I teach: "If you haven't read the Summaries, you haven't read the report, period!"
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December 19, 2013, 07:47 PM | #5 |
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Thank you for posting, I found it interesting reading.
What I find interesting is not the number of Felony firearm deaths, 4.2 percent of 48 would be approximately 2 deaths. It is the number of accidental deaths. Of the 47 accidental deaths, 22 were car accidents, another 10 were officers struck by cars, and 6 more were motorcycle related. This seems like an unacceptable risk. I know nothing about officer training but can't help but wonder if more training ( or larger training budgets ) is needed, or some kind of new technology is needed to keep officers safe. |
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Many smaller agencies don't have the money for that type of training. Which is a shame, because an officer spends more time driving than any other task. The use of computers in the cars initially caused a spike in traffic accidents, simply because the officers were using the computer when they should have been focusing on the road. Think texting and driving, with a full keyboard. Not a great idea. |
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December 19, 2013, 11:24 PM | #7 |
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You know after my post I was remembering a well liked officer in my area who was recently killed after a dispatch call of an officer needs assistant. While I don't know the micro details I believe someone pulled out in front of him. IIRC. I'm sure he was traveling at a higher rate of speed and can understand the need for it, but can't help but wonder if he had the type of training your talking about PawPaw. It seems like it should be standard training for all officers since according to the fugures, it is the number one cause of death. In the instant I mentioned it may not have helped, but I'm sure any driving training would improve these figures.
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I find it amazing that in all the United States, only 48 officers were feloniously killed last year. I would have assumed the number would be far higher.
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The other side of that coin is a short film: Release Us by Charles Shaw.
He documents that there have been more innocent people killed in the US by police forces than soldiers killed in combat: and he used the original 9/11 starting date. Not too far from my house, . . . a couple years back, . . . an old granny lady who was hard of hearing was shot to death by a swat team that supposedly "was in fear of their lives", . . . just as one example. I am not specifically a police basher, . . . I have a wonderful nephew on a Tx police force, . . . have had many good encounters with LEO's. BUT, . . . the militarization of the forces, . . . additional powers they have been given, . . . scares me to no end. May God bless, Dwight
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I also want to say that I agree with the last paragraph. I'm a cop and I can attest that there are too many chances given these days. Even if I make a rock-solid case, I can count on a plea to 1 felony for every 3 charges. Some prosecutors are good to go and on board, but many are too worried about clearing cases or get caught up in the "but he's still just a kid at 19, do we really want him to be a convicted felon?"... well, if I caught him red handed robbing someone over a crack deal gone bad then yeah, I do want him to be a convicted felon. Anyway, sorry about that rant but I had to get it out. |
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I don't really understand how the police can be considered militarized if they are locally governed and do not act under the control of the Department of Defense. Sure police forces are quasi military organizations and always have been as it relates to structure, command, rank. Fighting crime is uniquely different than fighting the enemies of our Nation. Perhaps I am being too literal, I am certainly open to a clarification of the term as it is being used here.
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Fire, the term comes from the use of MRAPS, drones, and expanded use of SWAT teams armed with SBRs capable of burst fire, and such things.
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The said thing about many officer deaths is that they come from a lack of thought on the officer's part. The death of a Lumberton, NC officer is a perfect example. Quote:
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