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January 14, 2013, 05:39 PM | #1 |
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New York State Gun Control - Passed!
Trying to limit to 7 rounds.
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...186794151.html No more garands and then the gun manufactures would have to make a whole new line of magazines for firearms to comply... Is it even possible for this to happen?
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Might be an opening negotiating position with 10 rounds being a "compromise" that "everyone" can agree on.
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January 14, 2013, 05:53 PM | #4 |
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I believe New York already has 10- and their pols have made statements about going lower.
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January 14, 2013, 06:02 PM | #5 |
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New York city is 5 (I think)
But changing the limit from 10 to 7 is just going to annoy people who do buy guns because there options will be limited because they are not made.
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I think they're 10. I think Cuomo wanted to go to 5.
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January 14, 2013, 06:18 PM | #8 |
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Crimes don't use guns anyway. I swear my eleven year old son can write a better article than that one.
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January 14, 2013, 06:45 PM | #9 |
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Or maybe it's time for people in New York to open their eyes and see that disarming lawful citizens is no restrain to crime. A dozen or so 2nd Amendment based suits ought to be filed yesterday.
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January 14, 2013, 06:52 PM | #10 |
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Right now we have 10 round maximum but we can use preban magazines. I believe this is Cuomo’s way of banning guns outright since many guns don’t have magazines smaller than 10 rounds in existence.
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January 14, 2013, 07:29 PM | #11 |
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Maybe, he wants everyone to own 1911 government models with the old standard 7 round magazines.
.45 ACP would be the New York standard.
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January 14, 2013, 07:42 PM | #12 |
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Pretty soon they will want a one round restriction and you have to carry it in your pocket until the need arises...lol. (A little Barney Fife humor)...
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January 14, 2013, 08:43 PM | #13 |
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As someone who lives in central new york, my blood is literally boiling right now. I have no idea what I will do if this bill passes and it is as bad as people are saying.
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Now, does a 10-round cap violate that? Perhaps not. But nobody makes 7-round mags for the Glock 17, the Beretta 92, the Sig P226, the Ruger P95, or any other major service pistol. Cuomo's proposal would effectively ban hundreds of service pistols in common use, and the Supreme Court would be none too pleased to see him flouting their verdict.
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Another western New Yorker here starting to seriously consider moving. This is out of hand. Worst part is Coumo is poised for a presidential run next election and we are getting a taste of his hatred towards firearms.
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This should help us understand how gun control works.
Hopefully this will help enlighten those who do not own assault style rifles. Who may own a hi-point pistol or a 22 autoloader with a 10 round magazine. Gun control is coming your way! |
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January 14, 2013, 10:48 PM | #18 |
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^^ Move.
Take your intellectual value and your economic value elsewhere. And make sure you tell the leadership of your former state why. Maybe they will get the point. Probably not. In any event... it's your choice where to reside. But nobody makes 7-round mags for the Glock 17, the Beretta 92, the Sig P226, the Ruger P95, or any other major service pistol. They will. Market forces will prevail. And 1911's will come back into style. Willie . |
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And we're not the only ones who know that. At some point, somebody's going to point that out to supporters of the bill, and it's going to be dropped.
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Unconstitutional.
This would be an ex post facto law if enacted. An attorney (James Tresmond) in Western New York is already preparing a challenge to the law. |
January 14, 2013, 11:28 PM | #22 |
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Maybe this would be a good time for magazine manufacturers and gun makers to simply refuse to sell guns, ammo or magazines to the State of NY or any of the political subdivisions thereof. Or at least no more than a 7 round mag.
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Why does anyone think a seven round mag capacity will necessarily be declared unconstitutional? The ten round limit has not.
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January 14, 2013, 11:39 PM | #24 |
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I just talked to Jim. He said that anyone affected by this law should call him at his office tomorrow. The telephone number is 716.202.4301
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Now, switching to 7 rounds will require new manufacturing and tooling. Such a law will require people to dispose of or relinquish property they already own without compensation. Serious 5th Amendment issues abound.
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