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No, safe handling practices are in place because the standard you imply is impossible to meet. SAAMI is the standard all manufacturers have to meet. That is simply fact. Quote:
It is just a fact guy. We as American's tend to think everything is fast food with instant gratification including engineering and production lines. It is just not that way. Quote:
Therefore they are "lacking leadership" when it comes to getting facts out that do not promote them as the caped crusaders of pistol launchers. Quote:
Some critical thinking skills in addition to what youtube tells you to think, read the DoD reports, and cross reference SIG's actions..... You will find they are saying the same thing I am. It is called VETTING of information. Something I am very used to doing. If we did not, then we would have shot a lot of innocent farmers simply because their neighbors wanted their farm in Afghanistan and other Durka Durka-stan's. |
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I’m like >< this close to bingo. Can’t you work in a SOTIC reference?
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So I should not mention any experience gleaned in what amounts to my entire adult life because you are so insecure as to think it is "shutting down" a conversation? Got it. |
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I've had plenty of people share similar experiences with me without me feeling "insecure" (and for that matter I neither have the authority nor the desire to tell you what to do). The difference is, from my impression, they do it to actually provide value to a discussion, whereas you do it to present yourself as the only authority in the room as a means to try to win an argument. Your repeated use of ad hominems throughout this thread goes to my main point of that post, which is basically about intellectual honesty.
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The customer (DoD) tells them in no uncertain terms in April of 2017 their initial delivery did not pass PVT testing. And then in the same paragraph, DoD DIRECTS SIG to fix it. That is not a request. If it did not pass the initial drop test then we would be talking about a vast conspiracy to cover up and award SIG the contract. We are talking a lot people who would go to jail. It is going a rabbit hole to visit Wonderland. Quote:
You realize you are draggin the thread off topic. You are free to decide what ever you wish. I am sorry that I talk about my experiences with guns on a gun forum. Last edited by davidsog; October 12, 2018 at 06:03 PM. |
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I have no problem talking about guns. What you've been posting about has more to do with business practice speculation than semiautomatic firearms (the topic of this subforum) themselves. The OP has long since disappeared, and the original topic of, "is it worth doing the recall?", has long been answered and is something that even you and I agree on. I'll take your point, but you might want to follow your own advice.
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If you removed your SIG branded eyewear long enough to do five minutes of Googling you would know this.
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Let's see if we can stop the personal attacks and also minimize the "I'm X and/or have done X so I obviously know more than everyone else." arguments.
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Allow me to rephrase: I can see that you are either unhappy or are doing your absolutely level best to make it seem that you are unhappy about how things have turned out. Quote:
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It seems that this is boiling down more to your apparent dislike of OO than to any objection to the actual content they posted. Maybe rather than trying to interpret OO's motives (especially since you seem to be against this type of approach when it is applied to you) it would be better to focus more on the veracity of their claims and the validity of their results.
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