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gun fitting?
I think there are some distinctions to be made between stocking a rifle that is meant to be shot statically (i.e. immobile) and a shotgun that is meant to be shot dynamically, with the gun mounted and fired as soon as it meets shoulder and cheek. For a shotgun for wingshooting or clay target shooting the stock dimensions are typically set to allow the shooter to shoot where he's looking, since the eye is essentially the rear sight on a shotgun. This assumes the shooter has a solid, repeatable, consistent mount - and that typically takes a few thousand rounds and maybe some instruction to achieve.
I would think that stock dimensions that brought the eye into the proper relationship with front and rear sights on a rifle would be the right dimensions to have. But you can also do a great many things on a rifle (i.e. crawling the stock, canting the head, bending neck and head to align the eye with the sights) that don't work with a shotgun. But I'm a retired FITASC/English Sporting shooter, not a rifleman. What do you rifle guys say? Is a gun fitting for a rifle worthwhile? For a shotgun it certainly is, if the fitter knows his business. |
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My LOP is 121/2" a gun fits or it doesn't, my guns come to my shoulder with ease the scope is right there clear and bright, if I am wearing a tee shirt or hunting coat now that's a well fitting HUNTING GUN !!!!
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September 26, 2018, 06:36 PM | #29 |
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A properly fitted stock on a shotgun is meant to put the rear sight (the eye) in the right place (given the mount is well done). Since rifles have the rear sight (or the equivalent) in place already, LOP is more a function of comfort than anything else.
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I recently replaced my Weatherby Mark V stock with a Boyd's Platinum. I had several LOP options so I measured and got 14". I have a 36" reach. I decided to pull out several rifles and check for cheek weld and eye relief. I came up with with 13 1/2. But then I realized that maybe I had mounted my scopes to compensate for the shorter stock and it turned out that I had. I went back to the Wby and set the scope up for best bolt handle clearance and ease of adjustment. When I shouldered the rifle I found well under optimal eye relief. I put a piece of tape on the stock where my cheek was landing then moved my head back, found the proper location and put a piece of tape there. I measured that distance and it was 3/4 of an inch. The Wby stock had a 13" LOP so I ordered my Boyd's stock with 13-3/4" LOP.
The stock arrived the other day and I installed it and shouldered it. With the rifle snugly into my shoulder at a comfortable position, my cheek landed exactly at the right location for proper eye relief. Looking through the scope and then moving my eye left to right did not cause the cross hairs to move on the target. So, in my opinion, proper LOP is dependent on much more than body size and arm length. Its correct when you shoulder the rifle and everything falls into place in a natural way. Whether you do that with scope positioning, butt spacers, recoil pads or stock replacement is entirely up to you. The point is that the initial measurement is important but it's not the final determining factor. |
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