May 26, 2009, 05:33 AM | #1 |
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Is Universal and Universal Clays the same powder?
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May 26, 2009, 07:18 AM | #2 | |
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G'day and welcome to TFL. the short answer is NO.
Here is another related thread. This is from the Sierra reloading manual. Quote:
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May 26, 2009, 07:20 AM | #3 |
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Yes. Where the confusion comes in is that Clays, Universal Clays and International Clays are all different powders.
Universal and Universal Clays is the same thing.
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May 26, 2009, 07:29 AM | #4 | |
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G'day.
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May 26, 2009, 07:38 AM | #5 |
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That is what he is saying and that is what is so.
The powders were introuduced as Clays, International Clays, and Universal Clays, but reloaders had trouble understanding two words at a time so the designations have been being abbreviated to Clays, International, and Universal. |
May 26, 2009, 07:52 AM | #6 |
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Yep.
Hodgdon made this mess. Most load data refers to them as Clays, International and Universal. But Hodgdon still writes "clays" on the actual bottles... I think? We had a thread about this quite recently. No doubt, this was a lot of stupid confusion on the part of Hodgdon. Really ignorant to name them in this manner, because switching powders accidentally is not like dumping a little salt on your plate when you wanted pepper. It's more like taking a blood transfusion of B negative when your body was looking for some A positive.
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May 26, 2009, 07:55 AM | #7 |
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G'day. Thanks for clearing that up for me. It's now as clear as mud!
I'll just stick to using; ADI AS30N (= Hodgdon Clays). ADI AS50N (= Hodgdon International). ADI AP70N (= Hodgdon Universal). Hay, I have just noticed that ADI makes all three of these powders and Hodgdon sells them in the USA.
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May 26, 2009, 08:32 AM | #8 |
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Yes, ADI makes all Hodgdon's flake and extruded powders.
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