October 16, 2017, 09:50 AM | #1 |
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I have many different case brands for my 38. Do you separate case brands when reloading ( winchester, federal, etc.)? Some are brass colored and silver colored, I am thinking as long as they are sized correctly it shouldn't matter.
I have used x-treme copper coated bullets and they seem to do well in my 686.I am about to embark into loading for my .45 M&P, has anyone used the x-treme copper plated bullets in your auto and have you had any problems? A friend of mine that passed and I used to reload years ago(10 plus). I have powder left over from then,it has been sealed and doesn't appear to have gotten damp/wet. Is it still safe and if not how do I get rid of it? Sorry one more where do you buy your supplies from(on-line or locally or both)? Thanks so much--Rich |
October 16, 2017, 10:07 AM | #2 |
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Separate cases? I don't - But I look for ones that have split
I have used their lead bullets with success Powder should be good; you can tell by the color and smell if bad I get my supplies online; things with hazmat fees like primers and powders, I go through my local shotgun club as that stuff gets put on the truckload of targets they buy so none of those fees apply.
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I generally sort cases by brand or case lenght, but it is not really necessary for .38. A little variance in case length will mean a small variance in flare and crimp, which for the most part, especially with .38 special has very little influence. Once you get to .357 and are using very slow burning powders seeking the best accuracy, this might change.
I use X-Treme 230 gr HPs in my Colt 1911 Government and they work very well. They are only a practice/range type bullet and while they can be accurate, they do not perform well terminally for SD/HD. Powder that is 10 years old, sealed and stored properly should be fine, but you should know how to tell if it has deteriorated. Something easily Googled. Best way to get rid of deteriorated or any other powder you do not want/use is to use it as fertilizer. As I said in your other post, read your manual(If you don't have one, get at least one). It will give you the answers to most of the questions you have already posted in very simple and easy to understand terms. I get supplies both locally and online, depending on price and availability. I suggest that as a new reloader, you do not invest in large amounts of anything until you find what works well for you, in your firearms. A good price on a thousand bullets or 8#s of powder is not a value if they do not work well for you and end up sitting on the shelf. |
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As to your brass; sorting by headstamp for revolver ammo isn't necessary. But, there's no harm in it, if you wanna, go ahead (for some load work-ups I sort by headstamp, usually heavy magnum loads). The silver looking cases are nickel plated, used originally for belt loop carry as the leather does not corrode the nickel (brass will turn green after a while when carried in a gun belt). Personally I have found no difference using nickel plated brass vs. plain brass cases but some do find the nickel plated brass to have a slightly shorter case life (I read of a real life test where a reloader got average of 16 reloadings with nickel cases before neck splits and over 20 reloadings with plain brass cases. Same load, same method). But 38 Special brass is easy to find and inexpensive so case life isn't a deal breaker. Inspection is an essential part of reloading so finding case defects is a priority, and easily done as a first step in the process.
Normally I don't recommend plated bullets to new reloaders because there is not much easy to find info regarding loads, load levels, crimping, etc. For a new reloader I like to recommend starting with a tried and true load with jacketed bullets and when the reloader gets familiar with the process, then he can branch out to different components. (for your 45 ACP reloading I'd suggest some 230 gr. FMJ. They have been successfully loaded for 100+ years and every problem has been experienced and worked out). I like to buy locally as much as possible (I'll drive 100 miles to purchase powder rather than buy online). I was trained in Hazmat handling, and truly believe gun powder is no more dangerous than aerosol cans which don't have to cost extra to be shipped. An anti-gun dig snuck through?
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So FedEx and UPS are the guys charging HazMat fees not DOT. They charge these fees to cover extra time and handling by the staff, extra labels and all other added shipping costs. Preparing a HazMat shipment requires a trained individual. Initial training and followup training every three years or so is required. |
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"...brass colored and silver colored..." The latter are nickel plated. Treated exactly the same as non--plated. You'll probably find the case mouths crack a bit faster with 'em though. The brand makes no difference whatsoever.
As mentioned, buying components on-line can get expensive quickly due to shipping fees(that are set by the carrier not the seller) and hazmat fees. Much better to buy components locally. Go buy a copy of The ABC's of Reloading. Answers to a lot of question are in it. Runs about $30 in your local gun shop or Amazon.
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Step one to check powder is to vigorously shake the container to be sure that the powder is well mixed. Step two is to open the container and smell it. Good powder should smell like alcohol, ether or acetone. Bad powder will smell acidic because it is decaying into nitric acid. Step three is to spread a small amount in a thin layer on a piece of white paper. Look at the color of the powder. Good powder will be black, gray or silver. There may be colorful flakes (i.e. blue, red, green, etc) in it, too. Ignore them. Bad powder is brown or rust colored. If the powder is good, use the paper to form a funnel to transfer the powder back to the container. Always deal with only one canister of power at a time to prevent accidental contamination. The Fire Code says to dispose of powder by dumping it in small piles no more than about one pound each, leaving a powder train back a safe distance from the pile (just like in the cartoons) and then use the powder train to light the pile. You can spread it in thin layers on grass or ornamental plants. As it decays, it provides nitrogen to the soil. Keep the layers thin because smokeless propellants produce nitric acid as part of the decay process and large amounts can burn plant leaves and roots. I think Nick C S was very wise to warn that the additives to slow decay of the powder are as best kept kept away from plants and grasses that will be fed to humans or livestock. |
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