AOW or SBS question

SpiritWalker · January 12, 2007, 02:58 PM

I am thinking about doing some conversion work on my Rem870 and would like info on how to do it legally. I have an extra 20” barrel I can chop and I’m looking for a top folding stock. What I would like to wind up with is a 10” or so barrel with a top folding stock.

My primary question is; does the top folder make it an AOW rather than a SBS and can/how do I go about doing this legally?

Second Question; Used to be a bunch of ads around for top folders for the 870 but all I’ve seen lately say they are for LE only. Are top folders still available for civilian purchase?

Thanks!

GalilARM · January 12, 2007, 03:33 PM

As far as the legality of the chop job, I actually asked a similar question not too long ago and havent gotten a clear answer. But to answer your other question, top folders are perfectly legal. I have one on one of my shotguns.

Csspecs · January 12, 2007, 04:17 PM

It is going to be an SBS as it has a stock, I think that AOWs can not be made on long gun receivers or firearms that ever had a stock on them.

shaggy · January 12, 2007, 04:45 PM

If it will have a stock it cannot be converted to an AOW; the stock and short barrel will make it a SBS. Additionally, if you wanted to make it an AOW (no stock) you'd have to start with a receiver that has never had a stock attached.

SpiritWalker · January 12, 2007, 10:18 PM

Thanks everyone!

Crosshair · January 13, 2007, 01:09 AM

Yup, an AOW can't EVER have or have had a stock attached where a SBS can basicly have anything done to it.

raymond- · January 13, 2007, 04:27 AM

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It is going to be an SBS as it has a stock, I think that AOWs can not be made on long gun receivers or firearms that ever had a stock on them.

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If it will have a stock it cannot be converted to an AOW; the stock and short barrel will make it a SBS. Additionally, if you wanted to make it an AOW (no stock) you'd have to start with a receiver that has never had a stock attached.

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Yup, an AOW can't EVER have or have had a stock attached where a SBS can basicly have anything done to it.

that's not entirely correct, of course, as there are provisions in BATF reg which
allows for shoulder stocked AOWs. one easy recollection is a combination,
single shot, shotgun-over-rifle which can be shoulder stocked.

example of 14" AOW

January 12, 2007, 02:58 PM	#1
SpiritWalker Member Join Date: January 10, 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 61	AOW or SBS question I am thinking about doing some conversion work on my Rem870 and would like info on how to do it legally. I have an extra 20” barrel I can chop and I’m looking for a top folding stock. What I would like to wind up with is a 10” or so barrel with a top folding stock. My primary question is; does the top folder make it an AOW rather than a SBS and can/how do I go about doing this legally? Second Question; Used to be a bunch of ads around for top folders for the 870 but all I’ve seen lately say they are for LE only. Are top folders still available for civilian purchase? Thanks!

January 13, 2007, 01:09 AM	#6
Crosshair Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2004 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 5,333	Yup, an AOW can't EVER have or have had a stock attached where a SBS can basicly have anything done to it. __________________ I don't carry a gun to go looking for trouble, I carry a gun in case trouble finds me.

January 12, 2007, 03:33 PM	#2
GalilARM Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2007 Location: TX Posts: 267	As far as the legality of the chop job, I actually asked a similar question not too long ago and havent gotten a clear answer. But to answer your other question, top folders are perfectly legal. I have one on one of my shotguns.

January 12, 2007, 04:17 PM	#3
Csspecs Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Posts: 1,111	It is going to be an SBS as it has a stock, I think that AOWs can not be made on long gun receivers or firearms that ever had a stock on them.

January 12, 2007, 04:45 PM	#4
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	If it will have a stock it cannot be converted to an AOW; the stock and short barrel will make it a SBS. Additionally, if you wanted to make it an AOW (no stock) you'd have to start with a receiver that has never had a stock attached.

January 12, 2007, 10:18 PM	#5
SpiritWalker Member Join Date: January 10, 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 61	Thanks everyone!