Uberti cartridge cylinder soft as mush - Page 3

FrontierGander · April 24, 2009, 01:12 PM

lol exactly what i was thinking. We all have our own names for certain parts.

arcticap · April 24, 2009, 01:18 PM

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If you want to get really technical, Colt called the wedge a "key".

Thanks, I needed that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2jKz...layer_embedded

DrLaw · April 24, 2009, 04:15 PM

That explains it.

The Doc is out now.

long rider · April 24, 2009, 08:14 PM

A KEY""" PHEW THANK GOD FOR THAT.

madcratebuilder · April 25, 2009, 06:38 AM

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YOU got to admit, dont we go on,
if this goes on any longer we could make
a shakespeare novel out of this post.

Heck long rider, reading this beats the hell out of watching American Idol

olmontanaboy · April 25, 2009, 07:27 AM

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Heck long rider, reading this beats the hell out of watching American Idol

Mowing the grass beats the hell outa that

long rider · April 25, 2009, 01:21 PM

American idol,

, i rather kiss a burros butt.

Raider2000 · April 26, 2009, 08:49 PM

American Idol?
That's what happens when we sit around too long infront of those picture boxes right?

Hawg · April 27, 2009, 12:18 AM

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American Idol

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American idol

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American Idol

Can we talk about something else please.:barf:

FrontierGander · April 27, 2009, 12:40 AM

bride zilla?

CaptainCrossman · April 27, 2009, 06:18 AM

TV ? there's only 3 good channels:

History Channel
Fox News
AMC (American Movie Classics)- really liked the spaghetti western week last month...

the other channels, they can have- it's all filler and advertising

DrLaw · April 27, 2009, 07:18 AM

As I was having breakfast this morning, I tried something.

Since I was eating oatmeal, which is similar to mush, I tried molding it into a cylinder.

Unfortunately, when I put it all on a lathe to round it out, it fell apart.

I just don't see how Uberti can make any cylinder out of mush.

Did I miss something here???

The Doc is out now.

Mark Milton · April 27, 2009, 01:08 PM

Meanwhile back in the real world, Colt itself did not start heat treating guns till between WWI and WWII.

This means the Colt peacemaker was soft as mush. The Colt 1917 was soft as mush too and the New Service.....

Yet we don't see many complaints.....

Gunsmiths who have worked on original 19th century guns tell me that while the old guns were better made, the new ones are made with better steels and are usually heat treated better.

grymster2007 · April 27, 2009, 01:38 PM

Not a surprise. Even lowly 1018 steel (pretty "mushy" as far as steels go) has an ultimate tensile strength somewhere north of 60K psi.

CraigC · May 1, 2009, 11:56 AM

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Colt itself did not start heat treating guns till between WWI and WWII.

You keep repeating this all over the place and it is entirely wrong. Case hardening is a form of heat treatment. Colt case hardened the frames, gates, hammers, triggers, bolts and hands. They were NOT "soft as mush". Colt began heat treating the frames to withstand higher pressures in the 1920's.

mykeal · May 1, 2009, 01:56 PM

He knows it's wrong. He posts erroneous information and inflammatory statements just to get people to respond to him. The more you respond, the more he'll post. Notice that he's buying these 'mushy' guns that are worthless. Just ignore him. He'll go away eventually.

Nate1778 · May 1, 2009, 02:14 PM

Does "Firing Line" have a policy against "trolling", if so is it ever enforced?

AdmiralB · May 1, 2009, 02:22 PM

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Colt case hardened the frames, gates, hammers, triggers, bolts and hands. They were NOT "soft as mush".

Seems like the OP referred to cylinders, which don't appear on that list.

Did Colt heat-treat cylinders prior to the 20th Century?

Case- or face-hardening is a form of heat-treatment - it (as the name implies) forms a hard but typically very thin layer on the surface - but it's done to reduce wear, not increase strength.

long rider · May 1, 2009, 06:21 PM

NEXT??

April 24, 2009, 04:15 PM	#53
DrLaw Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2007 Location: Wild Western Illinois Posts: 559	Older Pietta's That explains it. The Doc is out now. __________________ General McAuliffe said it best "Nuts."

April 24, 2009, 08:14 PM	#54
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	A KEY""" PHEW THANK GOD FOR THAT. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

April 25, 2009, 01:21 PM	#57
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	American idol,, i rather kiss a burros butt. __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.

April 27, 2009, 07:18 AM	#62
DrLaw Senior Member Join Date: June 3, 2007 Location: Wild Western Illinois Posts: 559	As I was having breakfast this morning, I tried something. Since I was eating oatmeal, which is similar to mush, I tried molding it into a cylinder. Unfortunately, when I put it all on a lathe to round it out, it fell apart. I just don't see how Uberti can make any cylinder out of mush. Did I miss something here??? The Doc is out now. __________________ General McAuliffe said it best "Nuts."

April 27, 2009, 01:38 PM	#64
grymster2007 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: In the oak studded hills near Napa Posts: 2,203	Not a surprise. Even lowly 1018 steel (pretty "mushy" as far as steels go) has an ultimate tensile strength somewhere north of 60K psi. __________________ grym

April 24, 2009, 01:12 PM	#51
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	lol exactly what i was thinking. We all have our own names for certain parts.

April 26, 2009, 08:49 PM	#58
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	American Idol? That's what happens when we sit around too long infront of those picture boxes right?

April 27, 2009, 12:40 AM	#60
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	bride zilla?

April 27, 2009, 06:18 AM	#61
CaptainCrossman Junior member Join Date: April 2, 2009 Posts: 381	TV ? there's only 3 good channels: History Channel Fox News AMC (American Movie Classics)- really liked the spaghetti western week last month... the other channels, they can have- it's all filler and advertising

April 27, 2009, 01:08 PM	#63
Mark Milton Junior member Join Date: January 30, 2006 Posts: 504	Meanwhile back in the real world, Colt itself did not start heat treating guns till between WWI and WWII. This means the Colt peacemaker was soft as mush. The Colt 1917 was soft as mush too and the New Service..... Yet we don't see many complaints..... Gunsmiths who have worked on original 19th century guns tell me that while the old guns were better made, the new ones are made with better steels and are usually heat treated better.

May 1, 2009, 01:56 PM	#66
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	He knows it's wrong. He posts erroneous information and inflammatory statements just to get people to respond to him. The more you respond, the more he'll post. Notice that he's buying these 'mushy' guns that are worthless. Just ignore him. He'll go away eventually.

May 1, 2009, 02:14 PM	#67
Nate1778 Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Louisville Ky Posts: 312	Does "Firing Line" have a policy against "trolling", if so is it ever enforced? __________________ "And finally, the Baby Bear looked and he said, "Somebody's sleeping in my bed, and the bastard's still there!" But Goldylocks had a Remington semi-automatic, with a scope and a hair-trigger!"

May 1, 2009, 06:21 PM	#69
long rider Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 669	NEXT?? __________________ Sod Buster Tried To Pull On Willson.