Can't Afford It

toolslinger · December 31, 2009, 05:03 PM

but I thought y'all might like to know. There is an ASM 3rd model Dragoon with the BARREL MOUNTED LEAF SIGHT on Gunbroker
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=150934583

Fingers McGee · December 31, 2009, 06:55 PM

There were two of them listed. One went for $270. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=151031733

toolslinger · December 31, 2009, 07:14 PM

The one I listed don't end for a couple o days.
Just to clarify, I was just trying to give a heads up. It ain't mine.

madcratebuilder · January 1, 2010, 07:11 AM

That first Dragoon has a frame cut for a shoulder stock but not the grip. The second has no cuts at all. I was under the impression the the folding leaf sights on the Dragoons was on the shoulder stocked models only.

I finally found a source for those folding leaf sights. As soon as I order two pair I well post the source, they are limited to stock on hand.

Fingers McGee · January 1, 2010, 12:20 PM

Neither of them have steel/blued backstraps; or the 4th screw either.

Apparently, ASM was working under the philosophy of use up what you have regardless of the configuration.

The one still open has a manufacturer's date code of AL - 1983. The Military Model I have was made in 1977.

Raider2000 · January 1, 2010, 12:46 PM

I'd love to have it but, Moma would kill me.

toolslinger · January 1, 2010, 12:57 PM

but I have a major move coming up in a month or so and I don't even have a rifle yet. Wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't moving right into the middle of herds of deer ,flocks o turkey,and messes of wild pig.

bprevolver · January 3, 2010, 02:10 PM

I guess I have to plead quilty to acquiring both of these revolvers. I am feeling very good this last year in finally, after some 17yrs of tooting the horn, that the replica percussion revolvers were indeed very collectable. Finding interested persons noticing the small detail variations between different issues is a strong indication of this interest.

The two Dragoons in question are examples of variations that are indeed very rare. These are the only specimens of this type that I have ever seen in nearly 18yrs of research.

Both are Armi San Marco manufacture. ASM has produced several unusual variations in their Dragoons. So far I have uncovered eleven variations of the 3rd Model Dragoon and three variations of the 2nd Model Dragoon.

I am currently looking for a 3rd Model Dragoon with a fixed rear sight. The ones I have seen are cut for the shoulder stock, with steel back strap and brass trigger guard. I have pictures but a specimen would be nice to have.

Fingers McGee · January 3, 2010, 07:53 PM

Congrats on the new acquisitions Jim. I was tempted to bid; but, I've already bought too many guns in the last couple months. The interesting ones just keep showing up though.

BTW, when's the book coming out????

I want the first signed copy.

Ken

toolslinger · January 6, 2010, 01:44 PM

I am glad this post did some good. I figured y'all might want those.

madcratebuilder · January 7, 2010, 08:59 AM

Quote:

BTW, when's the book coming out????

I want the first signed copy.

I'm inline right behind Ken.

Malamute · January 7, 2010, 10:56 AM

I'd like to have one of those sights, when the classified rating of the source is relaxed.

Been looking for 20-some years. Had one once, and gave it to a guy building a custom Ruger SA.

toolslinger · January 7, 2010, 09:02 PM

want the book and the sights

JohnsonBarr · January 16, 2010, 03:32 PM

Howdy Gents, I'm new to this site and came upon it doing SM 3rd Model search. I bought my pair in the mid-70's, steel back straps, all the stock cuts and 3-leaf sights. They are within a hand full of digits from being consecutively numbered. I also have a shoulder stock that fits one better than the other but, then there's no need to whine about that. I bring them out a couple of times a year to shoot a SASS or NCOWS match and enjoy the glaring drooles of others. Nothing quite like a two-handed pistol with 45grs. of Black behind a round ball! So, here's my search problem; one of my Twin Sisters has a cracked Cylinder Bolt/Stop. All currently produced replicas have much smaller Bolts that can not be transplanted. Nothing at Numrich and Bill at VTI can't help either. Anybody out there have a dead parts gun for sale?
-J.Barr; one gun short of a brace!

Fingers McGee · January 16, 2010, 06:46 PM

Deer Creek Products, the black powder sutler, does not have a web site. Their address is PO Box 246, Waldron, IN 46182. The phone number is 765-525-6181. Their location is 6989 East Michigan Road.

mykeal · January 16, 2010, 09:51 PM

Or, you can do as many of us have done over the years: get a good set of files, some strong coffee, some good background music and get to work.

Smokin_Gun · January 17, 2010, 04:43 AM

Bprevolver congrads on the pair of ASM Dragoon ... them rear sights are something I still want one day... good job & good prices.

December 31, 2009, 05:03 PM	#1
toolslinger Senior Member Join Date: September 30, 2009 Posts: 102	Can't Afford It but I thought y'all might like to know. There is an ASM 3rd model Dragoon with the BARREL MOUNTED LEAF SIGHT on Gunbroker http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=150934583

December 31, 2009, 06:55 PM	#2
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	There were two of them listed. One went for $270. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=151031733 __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

January 1, 2010, 12:20 PM	#5
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Neither of them have steel/blued backstraps; or the 4th screw either. Apparently, ASM was working under the philosophy of use up what you have regardless of the configuration. The one still open has a manufacturer's date code of AL - 1983. The Military Model I have was made in 1977. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

January 1, 2010, 12:57 PM	#7
toolslinger Senior Member Join Date: September 30, 2009 Posts: 102	Wish I could but I have a major move coming up in a month or so and I don't even have a rifle yet. Wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't moving right into the middle of herds of deer ,flocks o turkey,and messes of wild pig.

January 3, 2010, 02:10 PM	#8
bprevolver Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2006 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 141	Dragoons I guess I have to plead quilty to acquiring both of these revolvers. I am feeling very good this last year in finally, after some 17yrs of tooting the horn, that the replica percussion revolvers were indeed very collectable. Finding interested persons noticing the small detail variations between different issues is a strong indication of this interest. The two Dragoons in question are examples of variations that are indeed very rare. These are the only specimens of this type that I have ever seen in nearly 18yrs of research. Both are Armi San Marco manufacture. ASM has produced several unusual variations in their Dragoons. So far I have uncovered eleven variations of the 3rd Model Dragoon and three variations of the 2nd Model Dragoon. I am currently looking for a 3rd Model Dragoon with a fixed rear sight. The ones I have seen are cut for the shoulder stock, with steel back strap and brass trigger guard. I have pictures but a specimen would be nice to have.

December 31, 2009, 07:14 PM	#3
toolslinger Senior Member Join Date: September 30, 2009 Posts: 102	The one I listed don't end for a couple o days. Just to clarify, I was just trying to give a heads up. It ain't mine.

January 1, 2010, 07:11 AM	#4
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	That first Dragoon has a frame cut for a shoulder stock but not the grip. The second has no cuts at all. I was under the impression the the folding leaf sights on the Dragoons was on the shoulder stocked models only. I finally found a source for those folding leaf sights. As soon as I order two pair I well post the source, they are limited to stock on hand.

January 1, 2010, 12:46 PM	#6
Raider2000 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 719	I'd love to have it but, Moma would kill me.

January 3, 2010, 07:53 PM	#9
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Congrats on the new acquisitions Jim. I was tempted to bid; but, I've already bought too many guns in the last couple months. The interesting ones just keep showing up though. BTW, when's the book coming out???? I want the first signed copy. Ken __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

January 6, 2010, 01:44 PM	#10
toolslinger Senior Member Join Date: September 30, 2009 Posts: 102	Excellent I am glad this post did some good. I figured y'all might want those.

January 7, 2010, 10:56 AM	#12
Malamute Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2004 Location: Rocky Mts Posts: 859	I'd like to have one of those sights, when the classified rating of the source is relaxed. Been looking for 20-some years. Had one once, and gave it to a guy building a custom Ruger SA. __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt-

January 7, 2010, 09:02 PM	#13
toolslinger Senior Member Join Date: September 30, 2009 Posts: 102	ME TOO want the book and the sights

January 16, 2010, 03:32 PM	#14
JohnsonBarr Junior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Posts: 1	San Marco 3rd Model Dragoons Howdy Gents, I'm new to this site and came upon it doing SM 3rd Model search. I bought my pair in the mid-70's, steel back straps, all the stock cuts and 3-leaf sights. They are within a hand full of digits from being consecutively numbered. I also have a shoulder stock that fits one better than the other but, then there's no need to whine about that. I bring them out a couple of times a year to shoot a SASS or NCOWS match and enjoy the glaring drooles of others. Nothing quite like a two-handed pistol with 45grs. of Black behind a round ball! So, here's my search problem; one of my Twin Sisters has a cracked Cylinder Bolt/Stop. All currently produced replicas have much smaller Bolts that can not be transplanted. Nothing at Numrich and Bill at VTI can't help either. Anybody out there have a dead parts gun for sale? -J.Barr; one gun short of a brace!

January 16, 2010, 06:46 PM	#15
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Deer Creek Products, the black powder sutler, does not have a web site. Their address is PO Box 246, Waldron, IN 46182. The phone number is 765-525-6181. Their location is 6989 East Michigan Road. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

January 16, 2010, 09:51 PM	#16
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,772	Or, you can do as many of us have done over the years: get a good set of files, some strong coffee, some good background music and get to work.

January 17, 2010, 04:43 AM	#17
Smokin_Gun Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, CA Posts: 1,195	Bprevolver congrads on the pair of ASM Dragoon ... them rear sights are something I still want one day... good job & good prices. __________________ "I Smoke Black Powder" "Favor an 1858 Remington" SGT. Smokin' Gun, Mosby's Rangers 43rd Virginia Cavalry C.S.A. SASS# 19634, ... Admin:http://blackpowdersmoke.com/oldcoots/index.php