Tula 223

Onward Allusion · July 23, 2018, 08:12 AM

Thoughts on this particular Make/Model? Yes, I know it's steel cased. Is this round lower pressure than 5.56 as the 223 designation implies? What has been your experience?

I personally never had great experience with steel cased but have only shot 9mm out of my guns. They have a tendency to bind in my magazines unless I roll the rounds in my hands with a few drops of oil. Not sure if it's worth the trouble to save a few pennies per round.

zukiphile · July 23, 2018, 08:43 AM

I have a rifle set up for Tula 75gr. I find it reliable so long as I don't shoot hundreds of rounds of it then try to shoot brass cased ammunition before cleaning it.

I think it is a bit slow, though it still cycles a rifle with my heaviest buffer, six steel weights and one tungsten. It's good for 2moa with my 2.5x scope.

kenny53 · July 24, 2018, 08:55 AM

I have shot some and it is ok. I shoot Wolf .223 when I go to the desert and never had a problem with it. I know they say it will wear out your gun faster, but as long as they make replacement parts I don't believe it is that big of a deal.

Mike38 · July 25, 2018, 04:59 PM

Tula .223 is on the low end of powder charges for sure. It does go bang every time I pull the trigger, but it is by far the most inaccurate ammo I have ever used in my life. I tried it in an AK101 (AK47 chambered in .223) if that helps. This AK will shoot 2 inch 100 yard groups with my reloads, 3 inch with LC M855, 4 inch with Wolf, and I'm lucky to hit paper with Tula. Personally, I'll never buy it again.

O4L · July 25, 2018, 09:19 PM

I've never had a problem with it and 2-3 moa.

DMK · August 22, 2018, 11:41 AM

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I have a rifle set up for Tula 75gr. ... It's good for 2moa with my 2.5x scope.

That's good to know. I've been shooting Tula 55gr through my Saiga AK, but I just bought a case of the 75gr in hopes that it would be more consistent accuracy wise.

DMK · August 22, 2018, 11:45 AM

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I tried it in an AK101 (AK47 chambered in .223) if that helps. This AK will shoot 2 inch 100 yard groups with my reloads, 3 inch with LC M855, 4 inch with Wolf, and I'm lucky to hit paper with Tula. Personally, I'll never buy it again.

Were you shooting Tula 55gr or 62gr? What's the barrel twist on that rifle?

My AK has a 1/9 twist and I can consistently ring a 6" gong at 100y with Tula 55gr. I think my average group size is between 4-5MOA, where it will hold 2-3MOA just fine with Fed XM193 (yet doesn't like Winchester Q3131a for some reason)

BWM · August 22, 2018, 01:53 PM

There is some good 223 &5.56 out there go to AmmoSeek there you will need to sign in to see all they have Federal American Eagle 62gr is 6.99 per 20 and American Eagle is 8.76 for 20 rounds At Able,s they have 55gr for 5.69 for 20rounds this brass cases. on there at AmmoSeek you will see who has it the cheeps good luck

osbornk · August 22, 2018, 05:17 PM

Tula has shot well in my S&W AR15 with no problems. I don't shoot well enough to judge accuracy.

Mike38 · August 22, 2018, 06:04 PM

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Were you shooting Tula 55gr or 62gr? What's the barrel twist on that rifle?

I tried the 62 gr. Rifle has a 1/9 twist.

RAfiringline · August 22, 2018, 06:54 PM

I have 3484 rds. 55g through a DPMS Oracle pencil barrel AR.

Stoppages: -0-
It shoots pretty clean.
The rifle has appx. 1.5 moa with Federal Gold match, 1.6 with Geco, and maybe twice that moa with Tula.

Tula is all I buy now, but most of my AR shooting is off-hand practice.

DMK · August 23, 2018, 07:33 AM

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I tried the 62 gr. Rifle has a 1/9 twist.

Thanks Mike. I was thinking maybe you had 1/7 and was shooting 55gr. You shouldn't have had any stabilization issues there though.

PushPuller · August 25, 2018, 05:57 AM

Iv probably shot around 3k rounds of it through various ARs and although its not the most accurate ammo out there, it always feeds and fires, and is actually relatively clean.

Kvon2 · August 25, 2018, 07:05 AM

I've never had any issues with it other than accuracy. If you're just plinking its not a bad option.

DMK · August 25, 2018, 07:21 PM

I just tried some 75gr Tula (silver bullets) this weekend. I had two 16" carbines (one with a 1/9 twist RRA barrel and the other a 1/7 twist Ballistics Advantage barrel). Both were zeroed with Magtech CBC 77gr (A mk262 clone). I was using red dots with a 6x magnifier.

Where the 77gr was giving me 1-1.5" groups at 100y, the Tula was printing 2-3" groups (definitely more accurate than Tula 55gr I think). The Tula was also putting the groups about 2" higher. Accuracy was about the same in both rifles (that 1/9 RRA shoots 77gr just as well as the 1/7 does at 100y)

I also shot it at AR500 plate, at both 50y and 100y. No damage to the plates at all.

No malfunctions at all. No discernible difference in recoil feel or report in any round. The ejection pattern seemed consistent as well. I think I shot somewhere between 100-200 rounds (I had a quart baggie nearly full with loose rounds).

I'll definitely be buying more of this.

July 23, 2018, 08:12 AM	#1
Onward Allusion Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2009 Location: Back in a Non-Free State Posts: 3,133	Tula 223 Thoughts on this particular Make/Model? Yes, I know it's steel cased. Is this round lower pressure than 5.56 as the 223 designation implies? What has been your experience? I personally never had great experience with steel cased but have only shot 9mm out of my guns. They have a tendency to bind in my magazines unless I roll the rounds in my hands with a few drops of oil. Not sure if it's worth the trouble to save a few pennies per round. __________________ Simple as ABC . . . Always Be Carrying

July 23, 2018, 08:43 AM	#2
zukiphile Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2005 Posts: 4,450	I have a rifle set up for Tula 75gr. I find it reliable so long as I don't shoot hundreds of rounds of it then try to shoot brass cased ammunition before cleaning it. I think it is a bit slow, though it still cycles a rifle with my heaviest buffer, six steel weights and one tungsten. It's good for 2moa with my 2.5x scope. __________________ http://www.npboards.com/index.php

August 22, 2018, 01:53 PM	#8
BWM Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2013 Location: SW IN Posts: 438	There is some good 223 &5.56 out there go to AmmoSeek there you will need to sign in to see all they have Federal American Eagle 62gr is 6.99 per 20 and American Eagle is 8.76 for 20 rounds At Able,s they have 55gr for 5.69 for 20rounds this brass cases. on there at AmmoSeek you will see who has it the cheeps good luck __________________ Man that likes guns. Navy. USS Ponchatoula AO 148 USS Vesuvius AE 15

August 22, 2018, 06:54 PM	#11
RAfiringline Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2014 Location: western US Posts: 290	I have 3484 rds. 55g through a DPMS Oracle pencil barrel AR. Stoppages: -0- It shoots pretty clean. The rifle has appx. 1.5 moa with Federal Gold match, 1.6 with Geco, and maybe twice that moa with Tula. Tula is all I buy now, but most of my AR shooting is off-hand practice. __________________ Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. You need to take your time, in a hurry. Wyatt Earp

August 25, 2018, 07:21 PM	#15
DMK Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: Over the hills and far, far away Posts: 3,206	I just tried some 75gr Tula (silver bullets) this weekend. I had two 16" carbines (one with a 1/9 twist RRA barrel and the other a 1/7 twist Ballistics Advantage barrel). Both were zeroed with Magtech CBC 77gr (A mk262 clone). I was using red dots with a 6x magnifier. Where the 77gr was giving me 1-1.5" groups at 100y, the Tula was printing 2-3" groups (definitely more accurate than Tula 55gr I think). The Tula was also putting the groups about 2" higher. Accuracy was about the same in both rifles (that 1/9 RRA shoots 77gr just as well as the 1/7 does at 100y) I also shot it at AR500 plate, at both 50y and 100y. No damage to the plates at all. No malfunctions at all. No discernible difference in recoil feel or report in any round. The ejection pattern seemed consistent as well. I think I shot somewhere between 100-200 rounds (I had a quart baggie nearly full with loose rounds). I'll definitely be buying more of this. __________________ - Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment - www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org Last edited by DMK; August 25, 2018 at 07:38 PM.

July 24, 2018, 08:55 AM	#3
kenny53 Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2015 Location: My back yard Posts: 971	I have shot some and it is ok. I shoot Wolf .223 when I go to the desert and never had a problem with it. I know they say it will wear out your gun faster, but as long as they make replacement parts I don't believe it is that big of a deal.

July 25, 2018, 04:59 PM	#4
Mike38 Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2009 Location: North Central Illinois Posts: 2,710	Tula .223 is on the low end of powder charges for sure. It does go bang every time I pull the trigger, but it is by far the most inaccurate ammo I have ever used in my life. I tried it in an AK101 (AK47 chambered in .223) if that helps. This AK will shoot 2 inch 100 yard groups with my reloads, 3 inch with LC M855, 4 inch with Wolf, and I'm lucky to hit paper with Tula. Personally, I'll never buy it again.

July 25, 2018, 09:19 PM	#5
O4L Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2015 Posts: 646	I've never had a problem with it and 2-3 moa.

August 22, 2018, 05:17 PM	#9
osbornk Senior Member Join Date: August 11, 2012 Location: Mountains of Appalachia Posts: 1,598	Tula has shot well in my S&W AR15 with no problems. I don't shoot well enough to judge accuracy.

August 25, 2018, 05:57 AM	#13
PushPuller Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2018 Posts: 156	Iv probably shot around 3k rounds of it through various ARs and although its not the most accurate ammo out there, it always feeds and fires, and is actually relatively clean.

August 25, 2018, 07:05 AM	#14
Kvon2 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2016 Posts: 757	I've never had any issues with it other than accuracy. If you're just plinking its not a bad option.