Beretta PX4 Compact Feeding issues

craddleshooter · July 23, 2018, 08:43 AM

I have a Beretta PX4 Storm Compact 9mm, and I have used rem-oil for the last 2 years. Recently, I started to get A LOT of mis-feeds, and after a good amount of research, I think my problem was inadequate lube (or using Rem-oil...not a lot of fans in this forum)...

I've also noticed significant scratching on the barrel,cam and sliding lug/block since i've had the gun, which does indicate a good amount of wear and movement.

The last time I cleaned the gun, i decided to use 'Shooters Choice High-Tech Grease' on the sliding lug, cam and the slide - and I had no issues.

I just wanted to see if anyone else has had this issue. Do you use gun grease on these rotating components opposed to oil. If you use oil, do you stick with the 'dry' lube?

Thank you for any insight.

TunnelRat · July 23, 2018, 10:36 AM

I usually only use grease on internal parts as I don't want to attract dust and dirt. Usually I use Slip 2000 on barrels that tilt or rotate.

What does the manual say to use?

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mete · July 23, 2018, 11:12 AM

What are the Beretta recommendations ? Is that the one with the rotating barrel ? They may require a heavier lube

UncleEd · July 23, 2018, 02:00 PM

Generally and in my experience,
Rem Oil is great for revolvers.
A few squirts into the hammer
well and around the cylinder and
you're good to go for a long
time.

The Glock is also a "minimalist"
firearm when it comes to oil/grease.

But for guns like the Storm, Beretta
92, Sig 226, 1911 etc. then a light grease
is better. I usually use Wilson's
grease; it's a bit runny but works
great. I still use the Rem Oil
for around the safeties, the hammer
struts, a few small spring areas.

TailGator · July 23, 2018, 02:07 PM

I'm one of those who is not a fan of RemOil - it seems too thin to me. Berettas in general like to run wet (thoroughly but lightly lubricated), and the rotation mechanism of the PX4 needs some lube. Mine has had some problems when I didn't keep it lubricated like I should have. My personal favorite is WeaponShield, but anything with enough viscosity to stick around a while would be OK. I have used grease in the rotation cam of the PX4, but didn't feel like it worked better than WeaponShield oil.

UncleEd · July 23, 2018, 02:46 PM

Rem Oil is thin and runny, which is exactly
why it's been perfect for revolvers, which
actually can run dry under normal use.
But Rem Oil gets all around inside a revolver
without any buildup of goop.

Kvon2 · July 23, 2018, 03:10 PM

I like remoil wipes for a finishing touch on the outside of my firearms but I never use it as actual lubricant. Often times I'll actually put another lube on the wipe and use that. Wetter is better in my experience.

UncleEd · July 23, 2018, 03:59 PM

. Can't resist, Kvon2, but go to the beach
and go swimming. Immediately afterward
while all wet, lie down on the sand. Then
tell me wetter is better.

603Country · July 23, 2018, 06:02 PM

I use a gun grease on my full-size PX4. I was shooting it the other day and had a few jams. On purpose I had shot hundreds of rounds through it without cleaning or oiling it, just to see when it would jam up. It finally did. I gave it a thorough cleaning and used gun grease on sliding and rotating surfaces and then shot it some more with no issues.

Cosmodragoon · July 26, 2018, 06:19 AM

I am only familiar with the full-sized PX4 but the principles should be the same. First, the PX4 likes to be well-oiled. You could probably use some grease on the rotating barrel system but I've stuck with Beretta's recommendation to use oil. I only use grease on the slide, just like any other semi-auto. I usually do at least a basic clean and lube after every shooting. Maybe once a year or so, I do a more thorough job, check out the magazines, etc.

I read the following article a few years back and it was very helpful. I only recently switched to the non-toxic Lubriplate discussed therein. A company called Lubrikit now sells it in convenient sizes. So far, so good.

http://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/

July 23, 2018, 08:43 AM	#1
craddleshooter Junior member Join Date: March 9, 2018 Location: NY Posts: 90	Beretta PX4 Compact Feeding issues I have a Beretta PX4 Storm Compact 9mm, and I have used rem-oil for the last 2 years. Recently, I started to get A LOT of mis-feeds, and after a good amount of research, I think my problem was inadequate lube (or using Rem-oil...not a lot of fans in this forum)... I've also noticed significant scratching on the barrel,cam and sliding lug/block since i've had the gun, which does indicate a good amount of wear and movement. The last time I cleaned the gun, i decided to use 'Shooters Choice High-Tech Grease' on the sliding lug, cam and the slide - and I had no issues. I just wanted to see if anyone else has had this issue. Do you use gun grease on these rotating components opposed to oil. If you use oil, do you stick with the 'dry' lube? Thank you for any insight.

July 23, 2018, 11:12 AM	#3
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	What are the Beretta recommendations ? Is that the one with the rotating barrel ? They may require a heavier lube __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

July 23, 2018, 10:36 AM	#2
TunnelRat Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2011 Posts: 12,212	I usually only use grease on internal parts as I don't want to attract dust and dirt. Usually I use Slip 2000 on barrels that tilt or rotate. What does the manual say to use? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

July 23, 2018, 02:00 PM	#4
UncleEd Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Location: N. Georgia Posts: 1,150	Generally and in my experience, Rem Oil is great for revolvers. A few squirts into the hammer well and around the cylinder and you're good to go for a long time. The Glock is also a "minimalist" firearm when it comes to oil/grease. But for guns like the Storm, Beretta 92, Sig 226, 1911 etc. then a light grease is better. I usually use Wilson's grease; it's a bit runny but works great. I still use the Rem Oil for around the safeties, the hammer struts, a few small spring areas.

July 23, 2018, 02:07 PM	#5
TailGator Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,787	I'm one of those who is not a fan of RemOil - it seems too thin to me. Berettas in general like to run wet (thoroughly but lightly lubricated), and the rotation mechanism of the PX4 needs some lube. Mine has had some problems when I didn't keep it lubricated like I should have. My personal favorite is WeaponShield, but anything with enough viscosity to stick around a while would be OK. I have used grease in the rotation cam of the PX4, but didn't feel like it worked better than WeaponShield oil.

July 23, 2018, 02:46 PM	#6
UncleEd Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Location: N. Georgia Posts: 1,150	Rem Oil is thin and runny, which is exactly why it's been perfect for revolvers, which actually can run dry under normal use. But Rem Oil gets all around inside a revolver without any buildup of goop.

July 23, 2018, 03:10 PM	#7
Kvon2 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2016 Posts: 757	I like remoil wipes for a finishing touch on the outside of my firearms but I never use it as actual lubricant. Often times I'll actually put another lube on the wipe and use that. Wetter is better in my experience.

July 23, 2018, 03:59 PM	#8
UncleEd Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Location: N. Georgia Posts: 1,150	. Can't resist, Kvon2, but go to the beach and go swimming. Immediately afterward while all wet, lie down on the sand. Then tell me wetter is better.

July 23, 2018, 06:02 PM	#9
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	I use a gun grease on my full-size PX4. I was shooting it the other day and had a few jams. On purpose I had shot hundreds of rounds through it without cleaning or oiling it, just to see when it would jam up. It finally did. I gave it a thorough cleaning and used gun grease on sliding and rotating surfaces and then shot it some more with no issues.

July 26, 2018, 06:19 AM	#10
Cosmodragoon Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2013 Location: Northeastern US Posts: 1,869	I am only familiar with the full-sized PX4 but the principles should be the same. First, the PX4 likes to be well-oiled. You could probably use some grease on the rotating barrel system but I've stuck with Beretta's recommendation to use oil. I only use grease on the slide, just like any other semi-auto. I usually do at least a basic clean and lube after every shooting. Maybe once a year or so, I do a more thorough job, check out the magazines, etc. I read the following article a few years back and it was very helpful. I only recently switched to the non-toxic Lubriplate discussed therein. A company called Lubrikit now sells it in convenient sizes. So far, so good. http://www.grantcunningham.com/2006/05/lubrication-101/