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December 10, 2017, 12:28 PM | #26 |
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It is better when it doesn't just tear the whole head off the case, as once happened to me. I recommend putting the die in your freezer for a couple of hours before trying it. Brass shrinks a little more than steel does in the cold. If you have dry ice, colder is better.
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One Shot gets a lot of bad press and yet I know there are a lot of folks who use it with success. What I've normally used is Dillon. These were my first stuck cases in over five years of reloading which is what gets me. It's true, the brass was not cleaned first, but this was not random outdoor range pickup stuff. This was my brass, picked up off a concrete floor. I've done this before. I can't argue with the fact that I stuck a case; twice. So, I'm left with blaming dirt, or blaming One Shot. The easiest thing would be to avoid both ever gain. And that's what I'll be using. A friend is going to lend me his so I can try it out. Quote:
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Like I said, now that I have the universal decapper I won't be tempted to use the sizing/decapping die on dirty brass. I have a pile of brass (including range pickups) that I need to swage so I'll put them in that pile and do them all some Saturday afternoon when I'm bored. Quote:
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Don't forget to get a little tool to remove that pesky crimp with. If you don't cut the crimp completely away it will give you trouble seating new primes.
I use the Lyman Primer Pocket Reamer first, to remove the crimp , then finish up with the Lyman Primer Pocket Uniformer, this makes all the pockets to SAAMI specifications. After the case is done you won't have to do it again. Gary |
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I'm not sure how much swaged brass I'll need to de-swage before it pays for itself, but that's not important right now!
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Me too, I gave it to my brother!
Now I avoid that mil stuff like the plague (have not got said plague since)
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Like I said. I busted two decapping pins on that exact brass using an RCBS universal decapping die.
I had picked up several at the range and they were in with some other range brass. Staked primers isn't a problem for my decapping dies. They come out a little harder, but nothing remarkable. However!!!! Off center flash holes are a problem. So I pitched all that worthless stuff because I wasn't going to waste time swaging, cleaning, etc.. brass with flash holes I would be fighting until I got rid of it. |
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I'm not sure if the Lee decapping pin is more flexible or what, but I de-primed all of my brass with no issues after that first debacle.
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Stuck case removers can be made from common items.A nut such as 5/8-11,a fender washer with a 5/16 hole,a 1/4-20 tap,No 7 drill bit,a 1/4-20 socket head screw,and an allen wrench.
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If you're in a hurry and can't wait for One-Shot to dry, try Hornady Unique or Imperial Sizing Wax. Quote:
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If you're going to use range brass which may have off-center flashholes or may be Berdan primed, I suggest you get a universal decapping die and decap all your brass early on in your reloading process. |
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The die is on it's way back to Lee for ... well, to let the guys at Lee see how badly I screwed things up and give them a good laugh.
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Looking at the mangled rim in he OP, you are not removing the stuck case properly.
This is a 24 second video showing you the entire process to remove a stuck case from Lee dies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylp3fsYrEVw If you are more of a reader than watcher the directions are also in the instructions that come with the dies, #2 Stuck case https://leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/RM3508.pdf Now that you got it out, find the nearest trash can and deposit the Hornady oneshot in it and go get some decent case lube before proceeding. I suppose you can get away with using the spray one shot on pistol cases but I don’t like it for rifle and it looks like your results are not any better. If you want to stick (no pun intended) to Hornady products use their unique case lube, it’s about 1.2 billion times better, for rifle cases. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/75...-lube-4-oz-tub Last edited by jmorris; December 11, 2017 at 09:43 AM. |
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I've put this formula out before, so I'll put it out once again for those who have missed it. Put away the Hornady One Stuck, this is MUCH better and cheaper to boot. This homemade lanolin spray lube is the only way to go for bottleneck cases. I processed brass commercially for a guy with a Type 6 FFL for several years, and here is the recipe I used:
First, buy a 4 ounce bottle of liquid lanolin online (Amazon or eBay) for about $8. Second, buy a bottle of HEET fuel line antifreeze ($3), available at Walmart or any automotive supply store. Then buy a cheap plastic spray bottle at a local Dollar store. Heat some water on the stove, then turn it off. Place the bottles of lanolin and HEET into the hot water, BUT NOT WITH A FLAME UNDER THE WATER. Now pour 1/4 of the warmed up lanolin bottle (1 ounce) and all of the warmed up HEET bottle (12 ounces) into the spray bottle and shake to mix the contents. You now have one of the best lubes there is that will last for 1,000's of cases. To use it, dump your brass into either a box or large plastic bag, give it a couple of squirts, and shake and roll the brass around to distribute the lube evenly. You will be be amazed at how well this lube works and will never use anything else again. To remove the lube after sizing, dump the brass into your dry tumbler, add a shot of mineral spirits and tumble for 20 minutes. It's that simple. However, if you insist on using One Stuck, here is another Hornady product to order with it: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/13...k-case-remover Hope that helps. Don
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Closing the loop on this:
The nice lady at Lee called today and told me it was not the worst they have ever seen. She's probably supposed to say that to make me feel better. Long story short: $6 and it's on it's way back to me.
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I make my own Dillon type lube.
8 parts 99% alcohol and 1 part liquid lanolin. Why 8-1? Because the alcohol I bought was in 16 oz bottles and the lanolin a 4oz container...so 2 bottles of alcohol and one container of lanolin makes an easy 8-1. I think 36 oz of lube cost me $12....and 8 oz will do about 5,000 rounds +/- 500 or so |
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Suggest you buy some extra de-capping pins for the Lee de-capping die. You WILL bend the pin eventually, so go ahead and get some. Just have to R&R the bent pin and continue on with the decapping.
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The Lee #90292 has no replaceable pin by design...check it out jpx2rk , it's a nice outfit.
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I doubt the problem is with One Shot. Been using it since it came out and have never ever stuck a case. Came close one time but with the pressure I was putting on the ram I was certain I was gonna stick one so backed it out and re-lubed, cleaned the die and started over. No problem. You should know from the pressure your putting on the ram if you have a problem. Stop there and figure out why. Normally it's not the tools and it's not the lube; other than you simply didn't get the lube on it
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I have no doubt that it is "normally" possible. It just wasn't this time.
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LBussy---I think you deserve some credit for posting the whole saga here and including pictures...something I find very frustrating to do. Thanks.
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@ jpx2rk,
Yes, you are correct...you and I were thinking differently. The Lee Universal Deprime die (pin) will push up out of the crush nut when it hits an obstruction, and when it does, it's a very easy reset process. Not to steal this thread, but has any one ever broken a Lee Universal Deprime pin ?
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Some FNB cases were among a big bunch i picked up at the Ft. Sill private weapons range. Chunk them in the recycle bucket. They're not worth the trouble.
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