First experience with Inline

**4V50 Gary** · October 9, 2017, 11:04 AM

OK, I didn't shoot it, but a student brought one to the muzzle loading class. He fired a few round but after the third round, his Rem 209 primer didn't ignite his Pyrodex powder. We pulled the plug, cleaned it and it still wouldn't fire. We then sprinkled some 2F powder down the chamber and then it went boom!

Everytime he used only Pyrodex, he had trouble. When he went with holy black, no problem. We suggested he get hotter 209 primers and try finding holy black.

krimmie · October 9, 2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 4V50 Gary

Everytime he used only Pyrodex, he had trouble. When he went with holy black, no problem. .

Devine intervention?

FrontierGander · October 9, 2017, 11:22 AM

probably needs to clean the breech plugs flash channel out with the proper sized drill bit. If a 209 primer doesnt set of pyrodex, that sucker is clogged!

zipspyder · October 9, 2017, 11:28 AM

Was it the loose powder or 50 gr pellets?

Hawg · October 9, 2017, 01:07 PM

Something like that won't make any difference as to which powder is used. Standard percussion caps set off Pyrodex just fine. The only ignition problem I've had with Pyrodex was with my 63 Sharps with it's two turns in the firing channel. It still fired every time but it was like shooting a badly timed flintlock.

roashooter · October 9, 2017, 05:00 PM

and they say an inline using 209 is more reliable than an old fashion sidelock..

Beagle333 · October 9, 2017, 05:57 PM

The fire ain't gettin' to the Pyrodex. A 209 will light it every time.

rodwhaincamo · October 9, 2017, 06:32 PM

Rem #10's never had an issue lighting P or RS for me in my ROA or my Lyman rifle through about 2 1/2 lbs of it. Certainly even a weak 209 has much more oomph.

thallub · October 10, 2017, 06:23 AM

i can't imagine a 209 primer not firing a well maintained inline gun loaded with Pyrodex. It's a breech plug problem. Three of my inline guns use #11 caps. They fire Pyrodex every time.

Doyle · October 10, 2017, 07:01 AM

Rather than using normal 209 primers, I always had good luck using 777 Primers. They seem to be a little hotter.

FrontierGander · October 10, 2017, 10:27 AM

777 primers are actually the coldest primers you can get. They are a "specialty" primer thats cooler and helps reduce crud ring with t7/pyrodex.

Doyle · October 10, 2017, 02:25 PM

Really? I always thought the opposite. Well, they sure worked for me.

October 9, 2017, 11:22 AM	#3
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	probably needs to clean the breech plugs flash channel out with the proper sized drill bit. If a 209 primer doesnt set of pyrodex, that sucker is clogged! __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

October 9, 2017, 05:57 PM	#7
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	The fire ain't gettin' to the Pyrodex. A 209 will light it every time. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

October 9, 2017, 11:04 AM	#1
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,832	First experience with Inline OK, I didn't shoot it, but a student brought one to the muzzle loading class. He fired a few round but after the third round, his Rem 209 primer didn't ignite his Pyrodex powder. We pulled the plug, cleaned it and it still wouldn't fire. We then sprinkled some 2F powder down the chamber and then it went boom! Everytime he used only Pyrodex, he had trouble. When he went with holy black, no problem. We suggested he get hotter 209 primers and try finding holy black. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 9, 2017, 11:28 AM	#4
zipspyder Junior member Join Date: June 13, 2017 Posts: 429	Was it the loose powder or 50 gr pellets?

October 9, 2017, 01:07 PM	#5
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Something like that won't make any difference as to which powder is used. Standard percussion caps set off Pyrodex just fine. The only ignition problem I've had with Pyrodex was with my 63 Sharps with it's two turns in the firing channel. It still fired every time but it was like shooting a badly timed flintlock.

October 9, 2017, 05:00 PM	#6
roashooter Junior member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Posts: 508	and they say an inline using 209 is more reliable than an old fashion sidelock..

October 9, 2017, 06:32 PM	#8
rodwhaincamo Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,246	Rem #10's never had an issue lighting P or RS for me in my ROA or my Lyman rifle through about 2 1/2 lbs of it. Certainly even a weak 209 has much more oomph.

October 10, 2017, 06:23 AM	#9
thallub Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Location: South Western OK Posts: 3,112	i can't imagine a 209 primer not firing a well maintained inline gun loaded with Pyrodex. It's a breech plug problem. Three of my inline guns use #11 caps. They fire Pyrodex every time.

October 10, 2017, 07:01 AM	#10
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	Rather than using normal 209 primers, I always had good luck using 777 Primers. They seem to be a little hotter.

October 10, 2017, 10:27 AM	#11
FrontierGander Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2009 Location: Boncarbo,Colorado Posts: 651	777 primers are actually the coldest primers you can get. They are a "specialty" primer thats cooler and helps reduce crud ring with t7/pyrodex. __________________ https://buckskinsbp.blogspot.com/

October 10, 2017, 02:25 PM	#12
Doyle Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2007 Location: Rainbow City, Alabama Posts: 7,167	Really? I always thought the opposite. Well, they sure worked for me.