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July 31, 2007, 10:40 AM | #151 |
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[In my experience, over the last fifteen years, Taurus has had a higher rate of problems necessitating return for repair than Ruger or S&W.
This is a simple statement of fact.] As I have noticed on this thread and other threads re Taurus quality and on other forums re Taurus related threads... it seems that Taurus just has a more serious quality control problem compared to s&w and ruger (if these are the only choices) So getting back to your question again, (since i am a wheelgun lover who hasn't yet owned any Taurus wheelgun), will i consider buying a Taurus? will i? considering everything that i have read re quality control issues? Maybe not. or If I do really need a wheelgun and the only brand there is a Taurus, then Id pay carefull attention to its mechanism, test fire it before I buy. Otherwise, Id still stick with a Smithie!
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July 31, 2007, 11:25 AM | #152 | |
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Not anymore.
I had a change or heart about Taurus. Use to think they where good, I could not afford a Smith (still can not) so I could buy a revolver In the caliber I wanted for a reasonable price. With the money you have to spend to have it shipped back for their warranty servie, I could have bought a Ruger or a little more for a Smith.
I since sold the .44 Mag to Cabalas. I really do not need it with my Super Blackhawk. Here is what I posted in another thread I started. Quote:
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July 31, 2007, 01:32 PM | #153 | |
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This is the answer from that thread.
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July 31, 2007, 02:09 PM | #154 | |
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Here was my reply:
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No more Taurus for me. I was the kind of guy that kept trying to justify Taurus and the merits to other people. Not anymore, I have seen the light. I just got to a point being feed up with it. 3 our of 4 revolvers have had problems now.
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July 31, 2007, 07:26 PM | #155 |
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I bought a new S&W Model 625-3, and it failed after the first shot fired. Totally, you could just spin the cylinder while cocking it. It took S&W six weeks to repair and return a brand new revolver in which the hand had failed.
We bought a used, but 98% Model 29 that has more machine marks on the yoke than entire groups of revolvers. It's off-set machined. We bought a used, 99% Model 19 that has three tight holes with any brnad of FIRED brass. We also bought a 99% Model 17 that has a sticking cylinder full of charge holes after about 30 rounds. Following your logic, I should be out here bashing S&W. After all, FOUR of my last FOUR S&Ws are lemons. After listening to others talking about S&W as the choice for a "used weapon", one would think that this couldn't happen, either. |
July 31, 2007, 07:57 PM | #156 |
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JR,
I think maybe you should read and use the sticky at the top of this section. |
August 3, 2007, 05:02 AM | #157 |
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I'm not a huge Taurus fan, but I must admit, My Taurus 425 Titanium Tracker 4" in 41 Mag is a GREAT gun. Lightweight, not punishing on recoil (as one would have expected) and damned accurate. It's a perfect sidearm for my needs in the woods. I don't consider this a CCW, but it's definately a great woods / tackle box handgun.
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August 3, 2007, 09:38 AM | #158 |
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deadin, it would have been hard to predict the failure of the Model 625-3, no matter who's sticky was used. The weapon functioned well, until the first shot.
As for the Model 19 and Model 17, I did put snap-caps in each charge hole, and loaded rounds when I got home. It's after a single firing that they showed their problem. Unless you're going to use inside micrometers on every charge hole, something NOT mentioned in the sticky, that's about as good as it gets. I don't know about you, but most people aren't going to let you detail strip their weapon prior to a sale. Pulling side plates, or removing the yoke and cylinder, while great to talk about, aren't something that is going to go over well in most cases. The Model 29 IS probably the one that I should have caught. However, as it was used, and S&W Model 29s ARE fragile, I thought that it would be the usual cylinder shims, and go shooting. My bad. I should have expected poor QC from such a cheap brand. |
August 3, 2007, 07:34 PM | #159 |
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JR47,
You have gone out of your way to berate folks on this forum for not properly inspecting a firearm before purchase! Now you admit that your own purchases involved disfunctional guns? Your consistency of thought is inconsistent!!! |
August 3, 2007, 09:51 PM | #160 |
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I have Rugers, Smiths, and one Taurus. The Taurus is a Model 85, which has performed perfect for me, and makes a real nice pocket gun.
I'd buy another Taurus if there was a model that I was interested in, but Ruger and Smith seen to have it covered. |
August 3, 2007, 10:41 PM | #161 |
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I'd buy another Taurus before I buy my first Colt. I have an 85 with about 10k rounds through it, and the only problem has been the thumb piece coming loose and freezing the hammer in place. I reattached the thumb piece, realigned everything and now it runs just fine. I believe that they have a high rate of "lemons" and that their customer service sucks. Even still, my revolver has been nothing but durable and reliable.
::EDIT:: I missed the part about budget not being a concern. I wouldn't buy a Taurus, I WOULD in fact buy a Colt. Then sell it and buy 4 Tauruses |
August 3, 2007, 10:43 PM | #162 |
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probably not as Taurus has a somewhat spotty reputation.
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August 4, 2007, 06:28 AM | #163 |
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Juny Tuck, I berate no one. The simple fact is that people who purchase weapons with "gritty triggers, or obvious cosmetic faults, or tilted barrels do so out of sheer negligence on their parts.
I follow the check-list at the head of the column, and the faults mentioned weren't listed there, or have you bothered to read it? Before you opine about my inconsistent logic, how about those proofs? You remember, about Taurus not being used by Military and Elite LEO units in Brazil? Or the proof that Taurus uses "sweatshops with high turn-over rates". Or that they are assembled with "inferior parts"? |
August 5, 2007, 06:32 PM | #164 |
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Cost not being an issue, I would pass on a Taurus revolver. I bought one in 1989 at the Rod & Gun club, when I was in the Army. It was a 669 .357 mag 4". After about 50-75 rounds the action would bind up. Once it sat for 1/2 an hour it would be ok again.
Based on that experience I would have a hard time buying another. At the time the lifetime repair policy didn't mean much to a soldeir stationed in Germany. I couldn't ship it for repair without BATF import approval, and the Rod & Gun club wasn't any help. However, a local gunshop had a really nice looking .41 magnum Stainless Tracker that I had been giving some thought to. |
August 5, 2007, 09:28 PM | #165 |
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Taurus Raging Bull all the way...
The newer model Raging Bull lineup is pretty decent. I am about to put on order a 6.5" 44mag stainless model.
I have found the double locking mechanism of the Raging Bull design to be more to my liking. I also prefer the hammer based safety over the whole in the side of the S&W revolvers today. [I am well aware of the fact that S&W has engineered the S&W revolvers to not be any weaker due to the safety, but, its an eyesore and reduces their value to me] |
August 5, 2007, 10:09 PM | #166 |
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I have heard the Taurus stories and they gave me pause. I have since bought a Model 44, model 605 and 2 model 92's. I'm not sure about their service as I have never needed it. The revolvers are strong and well made, the pistols function flawlessly and are accurate. Until they do me wrong I am happy. I see them no more likely to break down than any of the other brands I own. I like the 92's best of my 9mm's that also include Rugers and S&W.
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August 5, 2007, 11:02 PM | #167 |
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The poll is over, but it is nice to see the backers still coming into the picture.
As for those who have older 669 and other Taurus revolvers there are some who hate them and many who still have these and are still getting good service out of them. Funny thing. The Brazilian Taurus web site has so called older models still for sale over there. It's just that they stopped selling those particular models over here. Not that they ever ceased to exist. Just not pushed over here anymore. |
August 6, 2007, 01:20 AM | #168 |
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taurus
as i mentioned before, i have 4 of them taurs',and each performs prettty
much as they are supposed to.until recently i would have purchased another one i wanted a tracker in 357 6",but over on greybeards , a sizable dealer got jacked around by taurus personnel over a defective gun that was that was shipped to him. bottom line it appears taurus has sunk back into their old ways, bad quality control and worse customer service. this is from a dealer not a purchaser. after reading his story supported by pics no more taurus here.dan |
August 6, 2007, 08:10 PM | #169 |
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Jr47,
Although we have had our disageements, I'm elated that you have come full circle on this issue. Gritty triggers, cosmetic defects, and tilted barells are very representative of Taurus products. I would not go so far as saying, buying one is sheer negligence as you have indicated. Let's just call it a bad buy, easily corrected. Nice to see your with us on all the quality issues! Your new friend, JunyTuck |
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August 6, 2007, 10:47 PM | #171 |
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I was doing some business with my local in home FFL dealer today, told him about the Nattering Naybobs of Negativity on a forum site...(who made that infamous quote)
That they are putting the bad mouth on Taurus without justification. Knocking the life time warranty...Just passing along the same bull shine they heard from someone else because they're dyed in the wool S&W fans. He told me, that maybe those fellows don't know that Taurus is number one again this year in leading the nation in its gun sales. Hey! That means they out sold S&W period. I think we should reevalute our Nattering and face the facts...Jack. Of course I'm just quoting an in home FFL gun dealer who has several makes of handguns and rifles in his shop...so what does he know. He had a large selection of taurus pistols and revolvers, the .44 magnum Taurus Tracker was such a flirt, it kept winking at me. Jim Last edited by 44and45; August 7, 2007 at 04:01 PM. |
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How about backing up and answering those claims you made? You remember, Taurus isn't used by the Brazilian LEO and Military Elite Units. Taurus is made in sweat-shops, with high turn-over. Taurus uses inferior metal. THEN you might have redeemed enough credibility to become a "friend". By the way, spell check is your friend. Disageements (sic) and barells (sic) make your post less understandable, buddy. |
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August 7, 2007, 06:50 PM | #174 |
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It's okay, I know change is hard, but you are coping well. You can't fix what you don't acknowledge so you are making good progress toward choosing quality firearms!
Thanks for the spelling lessons, adds alot to the debate? Friends should not let friends mis-spell. As far as the statements Iv'e made concerning Taurus, believe it's in your court to refute them with your own facts, which have not been forthcoming. Is the Mayo Clinic really needing volunteers? Can you provide some contact info? Your friend, JunyTuck |
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Where are you located? I can hook you right up.
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Try here for the proof that Taurus has held contracts for the Brazilian Military and LEO :http://www.taurususa.com/company/history.cfm As in the other thread where you held forth, again totally in error, the last issue of SWAT magazine, the owner of this Board, chronicled courses taught by Americans in Brazil for Elite Military and LEO forces. It made more than passing mention of the weaponry. Then, of course, there is member Rescue Me, who isan LEO currently in Brazil. Of course, you also ignore first hand experience. You have made these ignorant claims, and expect others, or me, to disprove them. As childish as that is, I've done so, several times. Yet, you still continue. Do you even own a weapon? All that we've heard, on multiple threads, was what you don't like. You've tried your specious brand of logic, and now you're just acting childish. Try to actually participate, please. |
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