Medium size 9mm recommendations?

RAfiringline · December 7, 2014, 06:08 PM

"Medium" size - about like a Glock 19.

1) I'm partial to DA/SA guns.
2) I'd like a gun w/ a nice 4 to 5 pd SA pull, right out of the box, no need for a trigger job.
3) good accuracy, few stoppages, not ammo temperamental.

Any standouts come to mind?

Thanks

WVsig · December 7, 2014, 06:13 PM

CZ PO1/ Compact / PCR / PO7

Sig P229 in 9mm

Used Sig P228

armoredman · December 7, 2014, 06:14 PM

CZ P-01, CZ P-07, more towards the P-01 or CZ PCR, as the perfect midsize gun, if you don't mind a decocker hammer fired. The P-07 can be switched by the user from decocker to standard safety.
My personal picks from personal experience.

Metalboy · December 7, 2014, 06:32 PM

I think Sig P239 also is a good choice. It's more expensive than Glock. But I also believe, that most of the time we get what we pay for. It's heavier to carry, but also heavier to shoot.(recoil matters).

Cyanide971 · December 7, 2014, 07:36 PM

•CZ P-01, PCR, P-07
•Sig 228, 229
•Beretta PX4 Compact, 8000 Cougar
•Grand Power P1 Mk7
•Ruger P95
•Sar K2P, Tanfoglio Witness P (Small frame), Sar B6PC

WVsig · December 7, 2014, 07:58 PM

If you don't mind used look at some of the Gen 3 Smith and Wessons.

Pilot · December 7, 2014, 08:00 PM

CZ 75D PCR, P-01, RAMI, P-07
HK P7, P30, 2000sk, USPc
Beretta 92FS Compact
Sig P228
Glock G19

jaytothekizzay · December 7, 2014, 08:24 PM

PCR would be my first choice. Then Sig p229

ritepath · December 7, 2014, 08:35 PM

Easy....the new CZ-p07 (pictured above is the 2013 or earlier)

Fishbed77 · December 7, 2014, 08:41 PM

Quote:

"Medium" size - about like a Glock 19.

1) I'm partial to DA/SA guns.
2) I'd like a gun w/ a nice 4 to 5 pd SA pull, right out of the box, no need for a trigger job.
3) good accuracy, few stoppages, not ammo temperamental.

Any standouts come to mind?

You are describing the Walther P99AS to the letter.

CUBAN REDNECK · December 7, 2014, 09:31 PM

Glock 19, CZ PCR or CZ P01 would be good choices.

bjw741 · December 7, 2014, 10:04 PM

Stoeger Cougar . . . same as the Beretta and can be had for $400 - $450 new. Great gun.

Worc · December 7, 2014, 10:10 PM

You don't give a price range.

DA/SA hammer guns

Beretta PX-4
CZ P-07
CZ P-01
FNH FNX
HK P-30
HK P2000
Sig P228
Sig M11-A1
Sig 2022
Sphinx SDP

DA/SA striker
Walther P-99 AS

armoredman · December 7, 2014, 10:32 PM

I had a PX4 Storm, interesting mechanism. I couldn't shoot it well, but that was all me - my landlord was able to do very well with it.

Edit to correct - I thought it was the compact, but it was the full size model.

Independent George · December 7, 2014, 10:59 PM

Out of the box, the CZ P-07 trigger is better than the P-01/PCR.

I haven't fired the Sig 229, but if the trigger is the same as the 226, I'd put that a little ahead of the P-07 out of the box (though at $850, it's almost twice the price).

On the third hand, Cajun Gun Works sells their Pro-Grade P-07 for just $675. I know you specifically said you didn't want a trigger job, but does that really count if you're buying it new with the trigger-job already done?

WVsig · December 7, 2014, 11:05 PM

Really we need a price point to narrow it down IMHO.

RAfiringline · December 7, 2014, 11:26 PM

>Really we need a price point to narrow it down IMHO.<

Probably $600 max.

WVsig · December 7, 2014, 11:29 PM

Do you prefer polymer or metal guns?

salvadore · December 7, 2014, 11:56 PM

BJW has it right, DA/SA, quality shooter at an excellent price.

TBT · December 8, 2014, 01:54 AM

CZ P-07.

oldandslow · December 8, 2014, 03:48 AM

RA,

A few of the used, high quality guns in 9mm with your specs-

1. SW 6906/04 series- 12 rounds of double stack 9mm, light, accurate, reliable
2. SW 3913/14 series- 8 round single stack, carries great.
3. Sig 228/229/239- pick double or single stack at your option
4. Beretta 92 compact- 13 rounds of double stack 9mm.
5. HK USP compact
6. CZ-PCR and Rami, both double stack 9mm's

Good luck in your quest.

Merry Christmas- oldandslow

Independent George · December 8, 2014, 09:14 AM

I'm a biased CZ fan, so my first recommendation is either the CZ P-01, or the P-07. The P-07 has a better trigger out of the box, holds 15 rounds 9mm instead of 14, and sells for about $450 instead of $550. I prefer the P-01/PCR's ergonomics, but the P-07 is excellent in its own right and sounds better suited to your needs.

If you can find it, the Walther P99 is an excellent gun. It's striker-fired, but DA/SA with a decocker.

All the other DA/SA guns I can think of are just a bit outside your price ceiling (though if you did go higher, I'd still suggest the CGW version of the P-07).

RAfiringline · December 8, 2014, 10:54 AM

>Do you prefer polymer or metal guns?<

No real preference, just lighter is better, all other things being equal.

armoredman · December 8, 2014, 01:20 PM

If metal, (alloy, really), is OK, then old school for me is one of the best CCW pistols ever made, IMHO, the CZ PCR.

Then again, I'm odd - I've been known to carry this gun concealed occasionally.

ScotchMan · December 8, 2014, 03:39 PM

All the good ones have been mentioned. A lot of these are larger than a Glock 19; for some reason, the 5" grip, 4" barrel size envelope doesn't have a lot going on. Most are bigger or smaller.

The PX4 Storm Compact is right there. This is a very underrated gun, especially when you consider the price. Convert it to decocker only and you have the best value in the class IMO. http://everydayloadout.com/beretta-p...m-compact.html

The HK P2000 would be another that is that size with the flat magazine floorplates.

The Sig P229 is a little bit bigger than a G19.

I don't have experience with CZs but have heard nothing but good.

December 7, 2014, 06:08 PM	#1
RAfiringline Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2014 Location: western US Posts: 290	Medium size 9mm recommendations? "Medium" size - about like a Glock 19. 1) I'm partial to DA/SA guns. 2) I'd like a gun w/ a nice 4 to 5 pd SA pull, right out of the box, no need for a trigger job. 3) good accuracy, few stoppages, not ammo temperamental. Any standouts come to mind? Thanks __________________ Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. You need to take your time, in a hurry. Wyatt Earp

December 7, 2014, 06:13 PM	#2
WVsig Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: NC Posts: 5,309	CZ PO1/ Compact / PCR / PO7 Sig P229 in 9mm Used Sig P228 __________________ -The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis -Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin -It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

December 7, 2014, 06:32 PM	#4
Metalboy Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2014 Location: SE. Wisconsin. Posts: 327	I think Sig P239 also is a good choice. It's more expensive than Glock. But I also believe, that most of the time we get what we pay for. It's heavier to carry, but also heavier to shoot.(recoil matters). __________________ Hungarian by birth, American by choice. I don't collect guns.They just accumulate themselves.

December 7, 2014, 07:58 PM	#6
WVsig Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: NC Posts: 5,309	If you don't mind used look at some of the Gen 3 Smith and Wessons. __________________ -The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis -Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin -It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

December 7, 2014, 08:00 PM	#7
Pilot Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2000 Posts: 4,193	CZ 75D PCR, P-01, RAMI, P-07 HK P7, P30, 2000sk, USPc Beretta 92FS Compact Sig P228 Glock G19 __________________ Pilot

December 7, 2014, 06:14 PM	#3
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	CZ P-01, CZ P-07, more towards the P-01 or CZ PCR, as the perfect midsize gun, if you don't mind a decocker hammer fired. The P-07 can be switched by the user from decocker to standard safety. My personal picks from personal experience.

December 7, 2014, 07:36 PM	#5
Cyanide971 Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2014 Posts: 725	•CZ P-01, PCR, P-07 •Sig 228, 229 •Beretta PX4 Compact, 8000 Cougar •Grand Power P1 Mk7 •Ruger P95 •Sar K2P, Tanfoglio Witness P (Small frame), Sar B6PC

December 7, 2014, 08:24 PM	#8
jaytothekizzay Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2008 Location: st. louis Posts: 450	PCR would be my first choice. Then Sig p229

December 7, 2014, 08:35 PM	#9
ritepath Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,419	Easy....the new CZ-p07 (pictured above is the 2013 or earlier) __________________ There's only one...

December 7, 2014, 09:31 PM	#11
CUBAN REDNECK Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2009 Location: SW FLORIDA Posts: 318	Glock 19, CZ PCR or CZ P01 would be good choices.

December 7, 2014, 10:04 PM	#12
bjw741 Member Join Date: March 24, 2011 Location: Bella Vista, AR Posts: 73	Stoeger Cougar . . . same as the Beretta and can be had for $400 - $450 new. Great gun. Last edited by bjw741; December 7, 2014 at 10:21 PM.

December 7, 2014, 10:10 PM	#13
Worc Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 641	You don't give a price range. DA/SA hammer guns Beretta PX-4 CZ P-07 CZ P-01 FNH FNX HK P-30 HK P2000 Sig P228 Sig M11-A1 Sig 2022 Sphinx SDP DA/SA striker Walther P-99 AS

December 7, 2014, 10:32 PM	#14
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	I had a PX4 Storm, interesting mechanism. I couldn't shoot it well, but that was all me - my landlord was able to do very well with it. Edit to correct - I thought it was the compact, but it was the full size model. Last edited by armoredman; December 8, 2014 at 05:11 PM.

December 7, 2014, 10:59 PM	#15
Independent George Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2013 Posts: 573	Out of the box, the CZ P-07 trigger is better than the P-01/PCR. I haven't fired the Sig 229, but if the trigger is the same as the 226, I'd put that a little ahead of the P-07 out of the box (though at $850, it's almost twice the price). On the third hand, Cajun Gun Works sells their Pro-Grade P-07 for just $675. I know you specifically said you didn't want a trigger job, but does that really count if you're buying it new with the trigger-job already done?

December 7, 2014, 11:05 PM	#16
WVsig Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: NC Posts: 5,309	Really we need a price point to narrow it down IMHO. __________________ -The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis -Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin -It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

December 7, 2014, 11:26 PM	#17
RAfiringline Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2014 Location: western US Posts: 290	>Really we need a price point to narrow it down IMHO.< Probably $600 max. __________________ Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. You need to take your time, in a hurry. Wyatt Earp

December 7, 2014, 11:29 PM	#18
WVsig Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: NC Posts: 5,309	Do you prefer polymer or metal guns? __________________ -The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis -Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin -It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

December 7, 2014, 11:56 PM	#19
salvadore Junior member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,282	BJW has it right, DA/SA, quality shooter at an excellent price.

December 8, 2014, 01:54 AM	#20
TBT Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2005 Location: Pittsburgh Pa Posts: 971	CZ P-07.

December 8, 2014, 03:48 AM	#21
oldandslow Senior Member Join Date: October 2, 2007 Posts: 641	RA, A few of the used, high quality guns in 9mm with your specs- 1. SW 6906/04 series- 12 rounds of double stack 9mm, light, accurate, reliable 2. SW 3913/14 series- 8 round single stack, carries great. 3. Sig 228/229/239- pick double or single stack at your option 4. Beretta 92 compact- 13 rounds of double stack 9mm. 5. HK USP compact 6. CZ-PCR and Rami, both double stack 9mm's Good luck in your quest. Merry Christmas- oldandslow

December 8, 2014, 09:14 AM	#22
Independent George Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2013 Posts: 573	I'm a biased CZ fan, so my first recommendation is either the CZ P-01, or the P-07. The P-07 has a better trigger out of the box, holds 15 rounds 9mm instead of 14, and sells for about $450 instead of $550. I prefer the P-01/PCR's ergonomics, but the P-07 is excellent in its own right and sounds better suited to your needs. If you can find it, the Walther P99 is an excellent gun. It's striker-fired, but DA/SA with a decocker. All the other DA/SA guns I can think of are just a bit outside your price ceiling (though if you did go higher, I'd still suggest the CGW version of the P-07).

December 8, 2014, 10:54 AM	#23
RAfiringline Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2014 Location: western US Posts: 290	>Do you prefer polymer or metal guns?< No real preference, just lighter is better, all other things being equal. __________________ Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything. You need to take your time, in a hurry. Wyatt Earp

December 8, 2014, 01:20 PM	#24
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	If metal, (alloy, really), is OK, then old school for me is one of the best CCW pistols ever made, IMHO, the CZ PCR. Then again, I'm odd - I've been known to carry this gun concealed occasionally.

December 8, 2014, 03:39 PM	#25
ScotchMan Senior Member Join Date: July 3, 2011 Posts: 1,368	All the good ones have been mentioned. A lot of these are larger than a Glock 19; for some reason, the 5" grip, 4" barrel size envelope doesn't have a lot going on. Most are bigger or smaller. The PX4 Storm Compact is right there. This is a very underrated gun, especially when you consider the price. Convert it to decocker only and you have the best value in the class IMO. http://everydayloadout.com/beretta-p...m-compact.html The HK P2000 would be another that is that size with the flat magazine floorplates. The Sig P229 is a little bit bigger than a G19. I don't have experience with CZs but have heard nothing but good. __________________ Everyday Loadout NRA Instructor NRA Member