9mm SD ammo - Page 2

SauerGrapes · June 7, 2017, 06:21 PM

My wife is 5 foot nothing and 90 lbs. {Elderly} Small gun plus 9mm= no go. I finally had to settle on a G42 for her.
The only way she can manage a small 9mm {PT709} is with something loaded by me.

Doc Holliday 1950 · June 7, 2017, 07:35 PM

Our G43 arrived & we'll pick it up tomorrow morning. All of my 3 recent posts were to get info on the Glock sub compact for Mrs. Doc & myself.

Mobuck · June 7, 2017, 09:08 PM

124 grain GoldDot (not +P) has done all I've expected of it.

SaxonPig · June 8, 2017, 07:02 AM

Newton's Third Law about opposite reaction tells us that recoil is always more pronounced with heavier bullets. I have shot low velocity 158s and high velocity 110s from a 38 side by side and it wasn't even close. The heavier slugs generated much more felt recoil.

I personally believe 115 grains is the ideal bullet weight for the 9mm but I am sure some specialty manufacturer offers a 90 grain JHP load.

random guy · June 8, 2017, 08:20 AM

This may be worth considering.

Barnes 9mm 115 gr TAC-XPD

It's actually a +P loading but recoil is next to non-existent. See the video about 4 seconds in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7ZGKghQtw4

Probably because the solid copper bullet with huge HP is very long and takes up a lot of space in the round. Velocity is moderate, as is penetration (Sorry, no free lunch). Barnes is the master of this bullet type and they open up picture perfect every time.

The icing on the cake? They are cheaper than most premium SD ammo. $18.99 for 20 at Cabella's and MidwayUSA.

Snyper · June 8, 2017, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Have you considered loading some hollow points yourself?

That will bring out the "never carry handloads" crowd, even though they can never show a self-defense shooting where handloads changed the outcome of an otherwise justified shooting.

**Spats McGee** · June 8, 2017, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snyper

That will bring out the "never carry handloads" crowd, even though they can never show a self-defense shooting where handloads changed the outcome of an otherwise justified shooting.

And yet, those of who actually understand the legal issues involved mostly agree that using handloads can complicate one's defense in the event of a self-defense shooting. One of us even wrote an article about it.

That, however, is not the topic of this thread, so let's not venture any further down that path.

WWWJD · June 8, 2017, 12:52 PM

FWIW,
I recently shot some Winchester White Box 115 gr target ammo and some of the Federal HST 147 gr standard pressure through my Kimber Micro 9; couldn't tell a difference felt recoil. I also had some Sig Sauer Elite 124 gr, which (IIRC) is also standard pressure stuff, but it did feel more snappy to me.

There was a link to the Luckygunner ammo testing before; "I think" the HST was part of all that testing. I don't know; at the end of the day, I don't think you could convince me that there's a "magic combo" for any caliber and weight. They all look like they're making holes to me. I'd probably suggest that you buy 3 different weights of the same make/model of personal defense ammo and see which one she favors.

Doc Holliday 1950 · June 8, 2017, 01:03 PM

Went to the GS/FFL to pick up my new Glock43. I shot Hornady 100 gr. 9mm and
Speer Lawman 115 FMJ 9mm ammo. Both worked very well, but there was a marked difference between the recoil using the Hornady and the Lawman and my wife did try both and agreed with me. She asked me to get a few boxes of the Hornady and I told her that I already ordered more boxes anticipating her response. Got a very nice kiss. Love it when a plan comes together and is good.

Guess who's going to have to go and buy another G43 or I might try the G26???

HAPPY WIFE, HAPPY LIFE!

Tactical Jackalope · June 8, 2017, 01:40 PM

Corbon DPX in 115 or 95 grain.

random guy · June 8, 2017, 04:34 PM

Glad it worked for you.

If Barnes or Cor-bon had gone with pink bullets they'd have a gold mine.

Tactical Jackalope · June 8, 2017, 04:47 PM

I'll pass that on to Pete Jr.

Quote:

If Barnes or Cor-bon had gone with pink bullets they'd have a gold mine.

Doc Holliday 1950 · June 12, 2017, 03:33 PM

Went to the range today and shot 1 box Hornady of 100 grain 9mm ammo and one box of Hornady 147 grain 9mm ammo and I could barely feel the difference shooting my new G43. To all that predicted this, my hat's off to you. Your advice was correct & I learned a new thing. I shot at 10-then 15- then 25 feet just to see where my sweet spot was for now.
Shooting the G43 is different than from my G19. My fundamentals are good so with practice
I should be as accurate with either one.
PS: my new grip technique made all the difference.

June 7, 2017, 06:21 PM	#26
SauerGrapes Senior Member Join Date: March 22, 2009 Location: S.E.PA. Posts: 920	My wife is 5 foot nothing and 90 lbs. {Elderly} Small gun plus 9mm= no go. I finally had to settle on a G42 for her. The only way she can manage a small 9mm {PT709} is with something loaded by me. __________________ NRA member, DCF&S member, PAFOA member, USPSA member, NSCA member R.I.P.____Murphy

June 7, 2017, 07:35 PM	#27
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	Our G43 arrived & we'll pick it up tomorrow morning. All of my 3 recent posts were to get info on the Glock sub compact for Mrs. Doc & myself. __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

June 8, 2017, 12:52 PM	#33
WWWJD Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2011 Location: Central KY Posts: 552	FWIW, I recently shot some Winchester White Box 115 gr target ammo and some of the Federal HST 147 gr standard pressure through my Kimber Micro 9; couldn't tell a difference felt recoil. I also had some Sig Sauer Elite 124 gr, which (IIRC) is also standard pressure stuff, but it did feel more snappy to me. There was a link to the Luckygunner ammo testing before; "I think" the HST was part of all that testing. I don't know; at the end of the day, I don't think you could convince me that there's a "magic combo" for any caliber and weight. They all look like they're making holes to me. I'd probably suggest that you buy 3 different weights of the same make/model of personal defense ammo and see which one she favors. __________________ *~Mark* NRA Endowment FTW

June 8, 2017, 01:03 PM	#34
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	Went to the GS/FFL to pick up my new Glock43. I shot Hornady 100 gr. 9mm and Speer Lawman 115 FMJ 9mm ammo. Both worked very well, but there was a marked difference between the recoil using the Hornady and the Lawman and my wife did try both and agreed with me. She asked me to get a few boxes of the Hornady and I told her that I already ordered more boxes anticipating her response. Got a very nice kiss. Love it when a plan comes together and is good. Guess who's going to have to go and buy another G43 or I might try the G26??? HAPPY WIFE, HAPPY LIFE! __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

June 12, 2017, 03:33 PM	#38
Doc Holliday 1950 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2014 Location: Bout as south as it gets Posts: 1,238	Went to the range today and shot 1 box Hornady of 100 grain 9mm ammo and one box of Hornady 147 grain 9mm ammo and I could barely feel the difference shooting my new G43. To all that predicted this, my hat's off to you. Your advice was correct & I learned a new thing. I shot at 10-then 15- then 25 feet just to see where my sweet spot was for now. Shooting the G43 is different than from my G19. My fundamentals are good so with practice I should be as accurate with either one. PS: my new grip technique made all the difference. __________________ Shoot well and be Accurate, Doc

June 7, 2017, 09:08 PM	#28
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	124 grain GoldDot (not +P) has done all I've expected of it.

June 8, 2017, 07:02 AM	#29
SaxonPig Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 2006 Posts: 1,900	Newton's Third Law about opposite reaction tells us that recoil is always more pronounced with heavier bullets. I have shot low velocity 158s and high velocity 110s from a 38 side by side and it wasn't even close. The heavier slugs generated much more felt recoil. I personally believe 115 grains is the ideal bullet weight for the 9mm but I am sure some specialty manufacturer offers a 90 grain JHP load.

June 8, 2017, 08:20 AM	#30
random guy Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2017 Posts: 272	This may be worth considering. Barnes 9mm 115 gr TAC-XPD It's actually a +P loading but recoil is next to non-existent. See the video about 4 seconds in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7ZGKghQtw4 Probably because the solid copper bullet with huge HP is very long and takes up a lot of space in the round. Velocity is moderate, as is penetration (Sorry, no free lunch). Barnes is the master of this bullet type and they open up picture perfect every time. The icing on the cake? They are cheaper than most premium SD ammo. $18.99 for 20 at Cabella's and MidwayUSA.

June 8, 2017, 01:40 PM	#35
Tactical Jackalope Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2010 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 6,429	Corbon DPX in 115 or 95 grain.

June 8, 2017, 04:34 PM	#36
random guy Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2017 Posts: 272	Glad it worked for you. If Barnes or Cor-bon had gone with pink bullets they'd have a gold mine.