handgun suppressors or "silencers"

dontcatchmany · July 19, 2013, 06:51 PM

I have a bunch of woods in my back yard and (like I did today) I sometimes want to test fire a weapon. However, I do have some neighbors maybe hundreds of yards away (not in the area of the woods and I am in the country).

Got the "bright" idea today of maybe using a suppressor/silencer (aren't they one in the same?) so as to not have the neighbors hear.

Not illegal to shoot as best I can tell.

But, it seems as though to put a suppressor on a hand gun, you got to go through a bunch of beaurocracy and pay a 200 (+-) tax and fill out paper work and get approvals with the Sheriff in addition to the cost of the suppressor.

Can anyone shed any light on this? Seems like a pita to be quiet.

5.56RifleGuy · July 19, 2013, 07:24 PM

http://www.silencershop.com/support/...buy-a-silencer

Enjoy the read

dontcatchmany · July 19, 2013, 07:45 PM

Thanks 5.56.

Heck I have an AR15 in 5.45x39 rifle that is loud even with muffs on.

But for what I want a suppressor, I can not see the worth in pursuing it.

Thanks again.

weblance · July 19, 2013, 08:27 PM

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But, it seems as though to put a suppressor on a hand gun, you got to go through a bunch of beaurocracy and pay a 200 (+-) tax and fill out paper work and get approvals with the Sheriff in addition to the cost of the suppressor.

Thats pretty much the way I went... but believe me, IT IS SO WORTH THE EFFORT. The first time you shoot with a quality suppressor, and the correct ammo, you will simply not think its possible to be so quiet.

Machineguntony · July 19, 2013, 08:48 PM

Go the trust or corporation route. It's so much easier and it'll save you three weeks of waiting for the chief law enforcement signature.

Just do it and then forget about it. And one day your stamps will arrive.

I'm trying to forget. Doesn't work. The wait sucks.

David Hineline · July 20, 2013, 02:36 AM

The Chief Law Enforcement requirement is going away as soon as BATFE finishes processing the changes.

If it's too much trouble then there is no regulation on silenced air rifles. You can buy quality high power rifles and perma mount silencers to them and hunt/shoot in the woods.

Skans · July 20, 2013, 01:23 PM

I want a silenced handgun. I just wish someone could make a really good integrally suppressed 9mm. With good balance and a fairly compact design. Am I really asking too much??? That would get me off my rump to do the paperwork, part with my money and wait forever.

Theohazard · July 20, 2013, 04:30 PM

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Skans posted
I want a silenced handgun. I just wish someone could make a really good integrally suppressed 9mm. With good balance and a fairly compact design. Am I really asking too much??? That would get me off my rump to do the paperwork, part with my money and wait forever.

I can't think of a single advantage to an integrally suppressed 9mm other than a little less bulk (though you'd only save a few inches at most). And the disadvantages would be huge: mainly you couldn't move your suppressor around to different hosts. My Octane 9 works great on any caliber 9mm on down; I shoot .22 though it and it's the quietest .22 suppressor I've ever shot. I can even put it on a 300 Blackout rifle (subsonic only).

There's not a large market for integrally suppressed firearms (and I've never seen an integrally suppressed 9mm handgun). The vast majority of people figure that if they're going to spend all that money plus the $200 tax and then have to wait 7 months, they want something that can be used on more than one gun and can be removed from the host firearm.

Armorer-at-Law · July 22, 2013, 11:00 AM

If you are really only wanting to test fire at a particular location, you can build a sound suppressing device that is not attachable to a firearm without all the legal restrictions of the NFA (check your state laws). The most popular is to fasten together a row of relatively small diameter tires (think wheelbarrow or small car) to form a tube. Set that on a table or put legs on it. When you shoot through the "tube" with the muzzle inside the first tire, it greatly reduces the sound.

Lark · July 22, 2013, 08:42 PM

I make my own on the ATF form 1; big time worth it in my opinion.

July 19, 2013, 06:51 PM	#1
dontcatchmany Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2010 Posts: 460	handgun suppressors or "silencers" I have a bunch of woods in my back yard and (like I did today) I sometimes want to test fire a weapon. However, I do have some neighbors maybe hundreds of yards away (not in the area of the woods and I am in the country). Got the "bright" idea today of maybe using a suppressor/silencer (aren't they one in the same?) so as to not have the neighbors hear. Not illegal to shoot as best I can tell. But, it seems as though to put a suppressor on a hand gun, you got to go through a bunch of beaurocracy and pay a 200 (+-) tax and fill out paper work and get approvals with the Sheriff in addition to the cost of the suppressor. Can anyone shed any light on this? Seems like a pita to be quiet.

July 19, 2013, 07:24 PM	#2
5.56RifleGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,212	http://www.silencershop.com/support/...buy-a-silencer Enjoy the read __________________ Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus

July 22, 2013, 11:00 AM	#9
Armorer-at-Law Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2002 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 465	If you are really only wanting to test fire at a particular location, you can build a sound suppressing device that is not attachable to a firearm without all the legal restrictions of the NFA (check your state laws). The most popular is to fasten together a row of relatively small diameter tires (think wheelbarrow or small car) to form a tube. Set that on a table or put legs on it. When you shoot through the "tube" with the muzzle inside the first tire, it greatly reduces the sound. __________________ Send lawyers, guns, and money... Armorer-at-Law.com 07FFL/02SOT

July 22, 2013, 08:42 PM	#10
Lark Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2012 Location: Western WA Posts: 144	I make my own on the ATF form 1; big time worth it in my opinion. __________________ Lark is free!

July 19, 2013, 07:45 PM	#3
dontcatchmany Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2010 Posts: 460	Thanks 5.56. Heck I have an AR15 in 5.45x39 rifle that is loud even with muffs on. But for what I want a suppressor, I can not see the worth in pursuing it. Thanks again.

July 19, 2013, 08:48 PM	#5
Machineguntony Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2013 Posts: 1,277	Go the trust or corporation route. It's so much easier and it'll save you three weeks of waiting for the chief law enforcement signature. Just do it and then forget about it. And one day your stamps will arrive. I'm trying to forget. Doesn't work. The wait sucks.

July 20, 2013, 02:36 AM	#6
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 704	The Chief Law Enforcement requirement is going away as soon as BATFE finishes processing the changes. If it's too much trouble then there is no regulation on silenced air rifles. You can buy quality high power rifles and perma mount silencers to them and hunt/shoot in the woods.

July 20, 2013, 01:23 PM	#7
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I want a silenced handgun. I just wish someone could make a really good integrally suppressed 9mm. With good balance and a fairly compact design. Am I really asking too much??? That would get me off my rump to do the paperwork, part with my money and wait forever.