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Old January 9, 2020, 04:43 PM   #1
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what are some interesting new budget models?

hello all,
I've been out of the loop for a while so I haven't kept current on new developments in the pistol market. I have a love for trying out budget 9mm pistols in the sub-300 range. is there anything that has come out in the past 2 years that anyone would recommend?
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Old January 9, 2020, 06:38 PM   #2
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A few, from Bud's Gunshop website:

Ruger EC9S for $198. There are variations of that model.

Ruger Security 9 Compact for $267 and full size model for $277

Not new, but the SW Shield (1.0) for $279

I've included just four, but there are others. You can look at 9mm pistols sorted by price at https://www.budsgunshop.com/search.p...0000837/page/1. I personally would stay away from all the Taurus, Hi-Point, SCCY and others of that ilk. I own a couple of Shields, but mention the Rugers only because of their reputation and reports I have seen.
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Old January 9, 2020, 07:32 PM   #3
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isn't the ec9s just a renamed LC9S because people couldn't tell the difference with the LC9 and LCP? or are there other design differences?
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Old January 9, 2020, 09:35 PM   #4
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Ruger changed the finish on the LC9s/LC9 to a black rust finish that is about the lowest level of finish you can get.

Someone will comment on the sights being part of the slide. True. However, the EC9 huge issue is the craptastic finish. And that's saying something as Ruger has horrible black finishes all around.
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Old January 9, 2020, 09:37 PM   #5
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TP9SF, TP9SF Elite both in the ONE series is one magazine and cardboard box for 275.
$220 gets you a new SAR, but that's not new...


Always the P320. I find it the base budget feel of all the current offerings....
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Old January 9, 2020, 09:38 PM   #6
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The EC9S has several cost-saving features: fixed sights are milled into the slide; the slide finish is less-expensive black oxide, and; there are fewer serrations on the slide.
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Old January 10, 2020, 07:30 AM   #7
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I second the CanIk line TP9s... any model depending on your needs/wants. If you like Walthers but don’t like their pricing the the Turkish clones are right up your alley and they shoot amazing. I own 3 and all 3 are just blasters without the crappy stormtroopers attached😏
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Old January 10, 2020, 10:15 AM   #8
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thanks for the recommendations, keep them coming.
FYI, I have already owned 3 caniks, still hold on to the TP9SF, swapped the sights with my SFX before selling it.
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Old January 10, 2020, 10:46 PM   #9
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Walther PPS M2. $300.00
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Old January 11, 2020, 12:35 PM   #10
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I love Walther.

The PPS M2 is messed up though with barrel peening. Walther knows it. They aren't fixing it, but will give you a new barrel when it finally looks horrible. Pass on the PPS M2. Sorry Walther.
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Old January 11, 2020, 12:36 PM   #11
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Yep. The Warren back sight on the TP9SF series is built for speed shooting by design. Canik says it's built for speed shooting. It is not built for accuracy.

I hate that a lot.
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Old January 11, 2020, 12:54 PM   #12
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I was not aware of the peening problems on the PPS, but I have always found walthers overrated so I've never seriously considered one. given the choice between walther and Canik, I tend to feel more comfortable with Canik. even though 2 of my 3 have needed work, Canik and Century's customer support in my experience has been great.
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Old January 11, 2020, 02:26 PM   #13
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I have always appreciated my poverty pistols as well.

I used to have a bunch of the sub $300 guns.

I think my favorite was my first 9mm handgun, the Arcus 98DAC. I don't think they're commonly available though.

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Old January 11, 2020, 03:17 PM   #14
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I have the 98DA and have been looking for a 98DAC.
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Old January 11, 2020, 03:56 PM   #15
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Sportsman’s Warehouse has had several Ruger SR series versions on sale for $249.99 lately. I bought an SR9 two weeks ago for that fantastic price.
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Old January 11, 2020, 04:44 PM   #16
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The Canik uses the Walther trigger system that went out of copyright and along came the first Canik TP9 that mimics the Walther P99AS (mimics because it's a copy).

TP9SF copies the PPQ trigger system.

So if you trust Canik, you by default trust Walther.
Also, Canik does not salt treat the metal like Walther. That's worth the cost difference to me.

The TP9SFX is coming in Mod2 soon. So you'll see TP9SFXs going for lower...
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Old January 12, 2020, 09:52 AM   #17
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What's a Bersa BP9CC going for these days?
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Old January 12, 2020, 03:47 PM   #18
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$200 new on the Bersa.
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Old January 12, 2020, 06:51 PM   #19
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I love Walther.

The PPS M2 is messed up though with barrel peening. Walther knows it. They aren't fixing it, but will give you a new barrel when it finally looks horrible. Pass on the PPS M2. Sorry Walther.
The PPS M1 is a fantastic little firearm. I love the paddle mag release. I'm sorry to hear about this issue with the M2.
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Old January 12, 2020, 09:10 PM   #20
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Sarsilmaz (SAR). Nice solid pistols, reasonably priced, striker and hammer-fired models.
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Old January 13, 2020, 12:28 PM   #21
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I found the following gun to be interesting. It is not a gun I would purchase, but interesting to see that it is going to be shipped with a RD already mounted.

SSCY- 17oz 10 rd mag

https://www.guns.com/news/2019/11/26...ed-cpx-pistols
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Old January 13, 2020, 05:46 PM   #22
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I 2nd or 3rd the Sarsilmaz pistols for their quality/value, but they aren't really new. I have a K2P with several thousand rounds through it and it still impresses me. I missed the boat on the Sar K2 45. Everyone is out of stock on them. The Sar K2 45 is a double stack steel frame 45 styled after the CZ75. It was priced under $400 when it was available.
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Old January 13, 2020, 10:10 PM   #23
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Ruger changed the finish on the LC9s/LC9 to a black rust finish that is about the lowest level of finish you can get.

Someone will comment on the sights being part of the slide. True. However, the EC9 huge issue is the craptastic finish. And that's saying something as Ruger has horrible black finishes all around.
Fortunately, Ruger now offers the EC9s in Cerakote finish as well for a little bit more money, and Cerakote has a pretty good reputation for durability/corrosion-resistance. The only cases I've ever heard of it failing were from botched DIY jobs by guys who lacked the proper know-how and equipment to properly apply it or otherwise poorly done aftermarket applications by novice gunsmiths. Fortunately, the Cerakote finishes on the EC9s are professionally applied factory finishes.

The only problem is that they don't apply it to the barrel for some reason, just the slide and frame, or in some bizarre cases only the frame, which is pointless considering the frame is made of polymer and aluminum. Oh, and if you really hate Flat Dark Earth and Matte Nickel for some reason, because last time I checked those were the only two colors of Cerakote they offer on their slides.
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The SARs are back, now imported by SAR USA, instead of EAA.
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I have the 98DA and have been looking for a 98DAC.
I haven't had the 98DAC in years or even seen one. I bought it about 8 years ago when I bought it at McSports. They don't exist anymore, and I never seen the gun anywhere else.

The good thing about that gun is that it takes Browning Hi Power mags, which are easy to find.

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