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Old December 30, 2019, 03:27 PM   #1
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Old December 30, 2019, 03:46 PM   #2
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Old December 30, 2019, 03:52 PM   #3
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I'd buy one if the price is right. I think the prices are way too high on the 5.7s. I'd like it for around the land or as an extra in the vehicle, but not for carry.
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Old December 30, 2019, 04:27 PM   #4
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I don't care much for 5.7x28, but I like that Ruger hasn't tried to shorten the barrel to 4 inches to cater to the CCW crowd because 5.7 was meant for a 10 inch barrel and the shorter the barrel is than that, the worse it performs.

An extra inch with 5.7 is probably 100 fps more.

That said, who is this pistol for? I'm on the forums frequently, I barely see anyone talk about the super fast bottleneck pistols like .22 TCM, 5.7, or 7.62x25. Also, 5.7 ammo is not cheap and there are only two factory options I know of that are readily available.

Admittedly, I like the 7.62x25 more because it's a bullet that's twice as heavy going not quite as fast, but still really fast to what 5.7 does out of a comparable length barrel. Not only that, but an 85 grain JHP going 1600 fps is going to penetrate more than a 40 grain JHP going 2000 fps.

I see what Ruger is doing tho, they're going to offer a 5.7 pistol for hundreds less than the Five-Seven and that is going to open the 5.7 market up a lot. I just would rather see it done for 7.62x25 because I believe that's a better pistol caliber.

I'm not knocking the 5.7, it's a great PDW cartridge... in a PDW with a 10 inch barrel.
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Old December 30, 2019, 07:24 PM   #5
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Assuming it's actually priced more reasonably, I could see getting this.

I've always wanted an FN FiveseveN, but at over $1000, it's too expensive for my taste.
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Old December 30, 2019, 07:59 PM   #6
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At most, I would pay Low 700s after tax. It needs to be in the 600s. It's just not that important to demand prices over $1k... at least not to me. I like their thinking though... unlike the legendary G44 22LR. And now that I said that, Glock will come out with a 5 shot .17 Hornet next year... just to spite me. lol
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Old December 30, 2019, 08:30 PM   #7
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Have had tons of fun with the FN PS90, kind of surprised to see someone besides FN chambering for the 5.7.

Have not priced the ammo lately.... but I do know this - when people ask "How do you afford to shoot that thing?" My standard answer:

"Simple. You bring one box."
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Old December 30, 2019, 08:30 PM   #8
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This might help make the 5.7x28 a bit more viable. I've long thought that the biggest hindrance to the cartridge is the limited options in both guns and ammunition. The ammunition situation improved a bit when Federal started loading for it, but as of now the only option in a handgun is the FN FiveSeven which, IMHO, is rather expensive for what it is.

I have to wonder, if this new Ruger comes to be and is priced more reasonably, might the price of the FiveSeven come down a bit since they'd no longer be the only game in town?
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Old December 30, 2019, 08:33 PM   #9
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This might help make the 5.7x28 a bit more viable. I've long thought that the biggest hindrance to the cartridge is the limited options in both guns and ammunition. The ammunition situation improved a bit when Federal started loading for it, but as of now the only option in a handgun is the FN FiveSeven which, IMHO, is rather expensive for what it is.



I have to wonder, if this new Ruger comes to be and is priced more reasonably, might the price of the FiveSeven come down a bit since they'd no longer be the only game in town?
I would like to think so but SCAR prices make me think no. The street prices of the FNS and FN509 though are pretty reasonable, so maybe I'm wrong.

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Old December 31, 2019, 02:22 AM   #10
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This might help make the 5.7x28 a bit more viable. I've long thought that the biggest hindrance to the cartridge is the limited options in both guns and ammunition. The ammunition situation improved a bit when Federal started loading for it, but as of now the only option in a handgun is the FN FiveSeven which, IMHO, is rather expensive for what it is.

I have to wonder, if this new Ruger comes to be and is priced more reasonably, might the price of the FiveSeven come down a bit since they'd no longer be the only game in town?
They'll probably come out with a budget version of the Five-Seven, one that doesn't have the slide covered in polymer, change it from a hammer to a striker fire, etc. They won't drop the original one because police/military worldwide still want the gun and they can pay any price.
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Old December 31, 2019, 02:29 AM   #11
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Have had tons of fun with the FN PS90, kind of surprised to see someone besides FN chambering for the 5.7.

Have not priced the ammo lately.... but I don know this - when people ask "How do you afford to shoot that thing?" My standard answer:

"Simple. You bring one box."
I get that, but I think after the last panic people realize they need to keep more than a box or two available otherwise they may not see ammo at a fair, non gouged price, for a long time.

What I don't know tho is how easy it was to get 5.7 during the last panic. Only thing I can say is 5.7 is online only type of ammo.

It's easy to spend $200 on 1000 rds of 9mm, but when that $200 only gets you 400 rounds of 5.7, that's hard to swallow.

Right now the most expensive factory ammo that I have the least ammo for one of my guns would be .45 Colt, but I reload that and have about 700 bullets waiting to be put in cases.

Not everyone reloads and I understand the reasons why they don't if they don't.
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Old December 31, 2019, 03:51 AM   #12
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I'm wondering if this Ruger 5.7 is actually real, and "street" priced in the $500-$700 range, hopefully it is and Ruger makes this pistol.
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Old December 31, 2019, 11:23 AM   #13
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Actually I remember during tye ammogedden 5.7 was almost always on the shelf, and at a reasonable price.
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Old December 31, 2019, 11:26 AM   #14
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Article in full

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...view-ruger-57/

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Old December 31, 2019, 01:12 PM   #15
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Video review of the Ruger 57 here.

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Old December 31, 2019, 01:19 PM   #16
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Suggested retail is $799. Toward the steep price end of polymer frame pistols. Hope it doesn't have technical issues and does well for them.
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Old December 31, 2019, 01:26 PM   #17
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Suggested retail is $799. Toward the steep price end of polymer frame pistols. Hope it doesn't have technical issues and does well for them.
Yeah but my guess is street price will be $700 or so. That's a lot less than a Five-Seven.

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Old December 31, 2019, 06:24 PM   #18
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I like the idea and that it's a real thing, but I don't know anyone who shoots 5.7x28 and it's pricey to boot. I'll admit it's cool but I don't know how well it will do unless we can get some inexpensive ammo for it, I mean the cheapest 50rd box I just looked up was $20. That's almost 357 Mag costs.
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Old December 31, 2019, 06:54 PM   #19
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If the street price is under $600 and they release a pro model with no manual safety, I'll buy one.
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Old December 31, 2019, 09:43 PM   #20
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I don’t know why they keep saying why the ruger safety is better. FN has a safety location that is not intrusive for those who don’t want to use a safety and easy to train to for those who like a safety. The ruger safety is always there bothering your thumb
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Good. Now please make a bolt or lever-action rifle for the cartridge, and maybe it'll go mainstream.
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Old January 1, 2020, 06:50 AM   #22
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Bolt action 5.7.....
I have been shooting the 5.7X28 for years...and reloading for it also.
I like the round a lot.
A bolt gun though? I don’t see it when there are already bolt guns available in cheaper and more effective .22s. The .223 Rem is far and away a superior performer in a bolt gun (and the .223 is easier to reload)
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I like the idea and that it's a real thing, but I don't know anyone who shoots 5.7x28 and it's pricey to boot. I'll admit it's cool but I don't know how well it will do unless we can get some inexpensive ammo for it, I mean the cheapest 50rd box I just looked up was $20. That's almost 357 Mag costs.
It depends what you want the gun for. I have a 9mm for shooting paper and steel plates for cheap. I dont see having anything else but 22LR as 'practical' for that. The price of $20 for 50 rounds sounds very reasonable for a gun I might use to put bullets into wildlife. Or a gun that I took to the club in a rotation that includes 45 LC and 44mag.

Every handgun does not have to be evaluated like it was for concealed carry and required 100 rounds a week practice.

I may not want this, but; it is somehting to think about. I also appreciated the comments on the 762x25. That is new to me. Makes sense.
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Old January 1, 2020, 03:31 PM   #24
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I don't see how a bolt action rifle in 5.7 is what it takes for the cartridge to become mainstream. I wouldn't see the interest either because if you want a rifle that shoots a 30 grain bullet at 3000 fps, there are plenty of .17 calibers that can do that, unless it's something to do with the .224 bullets being cheaper than .17 bullets for reloading?
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Old January 1, 2020, 04:32 PM   #25
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Looks like Ruger is using Kel Tec's hammer system again...
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