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Old January 12, 2020, 06:47 PM   #1
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Any Smith & Wesson Mod. 41 21lr Experts?

Brand new gun

The manual safety. It is fairly easy to engage but feels locked in place when trying to disengage, not stiff or binding but stuck. I believe if I used pliers it would snap off. I have to wiggle and play with it and it finally drops.

Sending it back to S&W would be a pain, even with a return label as none of the FEDEX counters in my area will take firearms and the main hub is a very long way away and heavy traffic ( 2.5hr round trip ).

Plus I hate to send it back for something that should be an easy fix.

Suggestions?
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Old January 12, 2020, 08:30 PM   #2
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I don't know anything about your safety problem but when I sent a pistol back to Springfield using their label, I handed the package to a FedEx Express driver and off it went. Same thing with a Ruger one time.
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Old January 12, 2020, 08:54 PM   #3
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I don't recall engaging the safety on my M41 in this century.
Their safeties are notoriously hard.
Even Bob Loveless gave up on it for his Field Pistol custom and went condition 3.

You might check on Rimfire Central .com.

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Old January 13, 2020, 02:25 PM   #4
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Sounds like somebody either disassembled it and didn't reassemble it correctly. Or the safety was replaced for some reason and wasn't fitted the way those parts are supposed to be.
It's none of FedEx's business what you ship, but they are not the only courier.
Like Jim says M41 safeties rarely get used. Don't recall ever using mine. In any century.
Go here and talk to Smith.
https://www.smith-wesson.com/custome...ipping-returns
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Old January 13, 2020, 08:19 PM   #5
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Whether you plan to use the safety or not, it should work as intended. I'd send it back to Smith & Wesson on their dime. They have earned a good reputation over the years for customer service.
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Old January 14, 2020, 09:03 AM   #6
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Whether you plan to use the safety or not, it should work as intended. I'd send it back to Smith & Wesson on their dime. They have earned a good reputation over the years for customer service.
Absolutely....the M41 is nearly a custom gun and the flagship of S&W's target guns....they'll fix it pronto, if my experience is any indication. Rod
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Old January 14, 2020, 03:52 PM   #7
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Whenever I have sent a gun back to Smith and Wesson under warranty I was able to schedule a Fed Ex pickup at my home
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Old January 14, 2020, 09:59 PM   #8
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FedEx absolutely has the right and you don't get to disagree.

You agree to announce what is in your box the second you ask them to ship.

Shipping your package, knowing the value, etc is THEIR business.

Send it back. I've returned a new 686 recently. Wasn't an issue at all.
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Old January 15, 2020, 01:45 PM   #9
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it's mainly there to make the lawyers happy, not for actual use by the shooter. it's a target pistol, load, aim, shoot. never intended for carrying in a holster, just raise from the bench and fire. mine is stiff too, never used at the range.
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Old January 15, 2020, 07:12 PM   #10
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MP44, if you don't get help here, try at the Bullseye-L Forum. There are many M41 owners there. Then again, in Bullseye competition, few if any use the safety. Loaded or unloaded the pistol is always pointed down range, so not many people use the safety. Matter of fact, I have no idea if the safeties even work on my target pistols. It's been that long since I've used the safety.
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Old January 18, 2020, 02:25 AM   #11
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I find that using a safety in a target gun makes me "feel better" if there's any hitch at the range.
Rarely. And I only use it if I'm not yet sure what the "hitch" might be and it's also still in my hand while I evaluate whether it's time for "gun down."
That's my way. And I do remember my M41 being very stiff.
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Old January 18, 2020, 09:10 PM   #12
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Then again, in Bullseye competition, few if any use the safety. Loaded or unloaded the pistol is always pointed down range, so not many people use the safety.
Too, if not being fired, in sanctioned Bullseye matches, the pistol is laid on the bench pointed downrange; the action open; the magazine removed and an empty chamber indicator inserted in the chamber. All that said, as I opined earlier in this thread, any pistol equipped with a safety should function as intended.
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Old January 18, 2020, 09:19 PM   #13
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When you use the S&W label, use the instructions that come with the return label and FedEx will pick it up at your front door and bring it back and drop it off in your hand. Someone has to be home to sign for it of age. Easy Peasy. They had mine for a month when sent back. Too long but I got it back. They did not even ask what it was and did not care. They picked it up and S&W had it in two days.
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Old January 18, 2020, 09:25 PM   #14
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When you use the S&W label, use the instructions that come with the return label and FedEx will pick it up at your front door and bring it back and drop it off in your hand. Someone has to be home to sign for it of age. Easy Peasy. They had mine for a month when sent back. Too long but I got it back. They did not even ask what it was and did not care. They picked it up and S&W had it in two days.
No one is home during the day for them to pick it up. Do they pick up and deliver late? Does S&W send you a tracking # when they return the pistol so you know the day it will arrive?
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Old January 18, 2020, 11:29 PM   #15
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I am not sure on late deliveries , I called S&W and they told me when it was to go back out and expect it
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