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March 20, 2007, 02:34 AM | #1 | ||||||
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-1 Mike B. of Arizona/Turrican
I bought a NEW Yugo M92 kit from Mike B.(mikeb...)/AR15.com, AK forum handle Turrican. Before buying the kit, I asked him in an email exchange if this was the EXACTLY THE SAME KIT THAT Gunthings.com was selling
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After I received the kit, I noticed that the kit was missing NEW magazine unlike the way I described Gunthings.com M92 kit. When I emailed and asked Mike about this, here is the first email reply I got in a series of nasty reply I got from him: My email to Mike just before reply 1: Quote:
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The gist of the email exchanges is that in the email exchange, I was assured that Mike was selling the SAME KIT THAT GUNTHINGS.COM WAS SELLING. After I get the kit, I'm told that's not the case and I'M A EXTORTIONIST among other things Mr. B. states in his series of email to me. He also personally MADE THREATS AGAINST ME. The email from Mr. Mike B. just keeps on getting nastier and nastier. --John |
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March 20, 2007, 05:55 AM | #2 |
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Not to make a long story longer but seeing your e-mails that prompted such responses would go a long way towards making your case 100% as seeing a relply in absence of the stateemtns that generated it makes it hard to judge compleatly.
In other words who started the posting family informtation stuff? Sorry the way this reads (without your e-mails) it reads as if you promted this by going down that road, and frankly that makes his positon more understandable for you have a relitivly moderate to minor gripe, and there is no nead to drag his family into it. NO judgement, just letting you knwo how it reads. |
March 20, 2007, 12:00 PM | #3 |
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I was wrong
Mr. Turrican/Mike B. is right. I apologize for any misunderstanding.
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March 20, 2007, 12:10 PM | #4 |
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apologies to Mr. Turrican/Mike B. and everybody else,
for losing my cool. I apology for any bad things I said about you. It was a big misunderstanding on my part. Thank you for selling me the kit at the price you did.
Be blessed, Mr. Turrican/Mike B. --John DFW,TX |
March 20, 2007, 07:02 PM | #5 |
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Hello guys, sorry such a lame first post. I have had to join a lot of new boards to try and clear my name due to the actions of this person. This looks like a cool site the and I will definately be around more. I post on lots of other boards under the same name and I do a lot of trading with lots of great deals for both sides. Please let me explain my side.
First of all here is what happened. 1.I NEVER adopted the add from gunthings as my add. I had an add for a kit that is all. He put up that description himself. I never advertised a mag. I was trying to illustrate what this type of AK is to someone who is obviously very ignorant with regards to them. I never offered a mag. I DONT EVEN HAVE A NEW MAG! 2. He asked what it was and I told him it was the same as the one gunthings was selling. Meaning an M92. 3. I ship it to him priority the next day. "When I get home that day he sends me an email saying what is demilled and what is virgin.?" I explain the difference and he realizes he cant put it together. 4. An hour later I see an add on SAIGA12.com from him selling the kit for 30.00 more then I sold it to him for. Mind you he is not even in possession of this kit yet. Since it is still in the mail he rips off the description and the picture from the gunthings website and advertises it using all THEIR info which I have let them know about. Because the picture in HIS add and HIS description shows a mag he now needs to provide a mag. So he decdides to threaten to flame me on "every gun board" if I dont give him one. 5.He threatens me and says he will post my address all over the internet if he doesnt get his way. 6. At this point I tell him to do his worst because I dont care at this point. Its not about the mag it is the principal of it now. If he would have been a man about it and said he couldnt build a VIRGIN kit, I would have given him back his money. I could easily resell it as I had lots of emails about it after I sold it to him. If I thought he was truly sorry I would give him some leads to help sell it. But I dont like internet cowards like him. He said he would ruin me on the boards and he would "let the people decide" Well, they have and the truth is known. Now I have to go and sign up on every gunboard he flamed me on and tell my side of the story. It wasnt even advertised on all these other boards but this is his way of trying to force me to give him a mag. As far as the missing emails here is one of his between what he posted from me #1 and #2. He only posted my responses, not his threats. I will publish your handle, full name, and address, and the text of this email correspondence on every gun board I can find for the rest of this year. --John I highly recommend to all reading this to avoid him like the plague. DEAL WITH HIM AT YOU OWN RISK. If he gets this worked up about a mag, think what else he could do. Truth is I am worried about him coming to my house to try and start something. He keeps telling me he has my address. |
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You,re clear in my eyes Turrican. I had a deal go down on a strait trade, guy new exactly what I had and I knew exactly what he had. When he recieved mine, he called me saying I screwed him.
It took a bit of effort to appease his ignorance, but I did. So I feel for ya man!
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I've already apologized but since some people have requested complete email exchanges b/w Mr. Turrican/Mike B. and myself, here they are.
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So is your apology genuine or do you still think you have a point? I dont understand. It seems like I am dealing with more then one personality here.
Since you enjoy posting my personal info including name and address so much I will now start posting yours too every time I see you doing it to me. We will see how you like it done to you. I have asked you to remove my private information and even after your "public apology" you have refused so I guess the feud goes on. Last edited by turrican; March 27, 2007 at 12:37 AM. |
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What a Cry Baby!
I saw his thread on THR. Sportsmans Guide has mags for $72 a dozen. Get over it.
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March 27, 2007, 05:27 AM | #11 |
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Welcome Turrican....
I had a similar situation on another board, XD Talk, to be exact...I had a 4-sale on another XD which a member offered to purchase...to make a long story short, I ultimately refused to sell to this individual after seeing some of his posts, which at best, were immature, ethnocentric, and downright racist in their intent....well, this hack goes about stalking me on XD Talk, and parses every word on any subject that I may have posted, all the while bitching about how I had welched on a deal...I got tired of his BS, and essentially verbally put the creep in his place, and got banned for it (apparently the Mods would not warn him of his stalking)...I took matters in my own hand, and paid the price, but that's OK...any forum that covers for and insulates a member who is racist is not a forum for me...in any event, welcome aboard.
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All of this over a $12 mag? And you threatened to post his private info and pics of family online? (Where is that email in the chain of communication above?) Dude, that's waaay over the line.
And Turrican's post in the Saiga forum is priceless. |
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Ive had nothing but good dealings with John (theinvisbileheart), thats all I'll add.
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March 27, 2007, 05:49 PM | #14 |
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There is no point in continuing this thread. Both sides have stated their case. The original poster has apologized for the apparent misunderstanding, and that should have been the end of it.
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