Non-USA citizen buying gun ?

crapster · July 9, 2009, 12:45 PM

Ok, so i have mu permanent legal residence...aka greencard [its actually pink in color]..anyhow, my poor understanding s that i can legally purchase a handgun as long as i have been in the USA for 90 days continouse...is that pretty much correct??? Also, what do i need to take with me to the gunshop...do i need my greencard, ss card, or just my local drivers license? Thanks for any info.

ninjatoth · July 9, 2009, 03:19 PM

where do you live?I think each state will have different rules for what you need.You will have to go to your local police station or wherever pistol permits are issued,with your drivers license,take the greencard just in case too.Then you will probably have to take a short quiz on firearm safety and pay a small fee to have your background check run.But this all varies greatly from state to state.

crapster · July 9, 2009, 03:53 PM

Guess i know even less then i thought. I was under the impression that it was a federal gun law that made you license a handgun at time of purchase....now it involves my state to....ok, now i am more confused.

Big Ugly Tall Texan · July 9, 2009, 03:56 PM

and assure you that as a Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) of the USA, you can legally purchase and own a firearm as long as you meet the same legal requirements a US citizen would have to meet.

Have fun.

And you're right - green cards haven't been green for about 20 years. They were kind of pink and now they are beige with holograms and all kinds of cool stuff, like all of the US flags and busts of all of our presidents.

Jason607 · July 12, 2009, 08:43 PM

I'm surprised Hillary hasn't heard of this... do you think she would step across the line to advocate for CCW permits for illegals?

All joking aside, it depends on the state.

Jim March · July 12, 2009, 09:06 PM

>>All joking aside, it depends on the state.<<

It used to. The courts have been striking down bans on green-card-holders exercising the RKBA. One of the first was actually in California, in 1972:

http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/rappard.txt

In that case, state law mandated felony bust for handgun possession for green-card holders. That was tossed out.

Within the last year WA State gave up on a roughly similar concept when challenged in court...in other words, they didn't even wait until trial, the state caved in.

dogtown tom · July 13, 2009, 12:00 AM

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crapster Ok, so i have mu permanent legal residence...aka greencard [its actually pink in color]..anyhow, my poor understanding s that i can legally purchase a handgun as long as i have been in the USA for 90 days continouse...is that pretty much correct??? Also, what do i need to take with me to the gunshop...do i need my greencard, ss card, or just my local drivers license? Thanks for any info.

When purchasing a firearm you will be required to complete a Form 4473 (Firearm Transaction Record) and pass the FBI NICS check (instant background check) Some states may have additional requirements for a firearm purchase.

On Pg 2 of the Form 4473, question 20c is required of all Aliens. It asks for documents that establish 90 day residency (utility bills, lease agreements, bank statements, credit card bills, etc). These documents must be from the 90 day period preceding the sale. You should bring a copy to attach to the 4473.

July 9, 2009, 12:45 PM	#1
crapster Member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Posts: 26	Non-USA citizen buying gun ? Ok, so i have mu permanent legal residence...aka greencard [its actually pink in color]..anyhow, my poor understanding s that i can legally purchase a handgun as long as i have been in the USA for 90 days continouse...is that pretty much correct??? Also, what do i need to take with me to the gunshop...do i need my greencard, ss card, or just my local drivers license? Thanks for any info.

July 9, 2009, 03:53 PM	#3
crapster Member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Posts: 26	Ohio Guess i know even less then i thought. I was under the impression that it was a federal gun law that made you license a handgun at time of purchase....now it involves my state to....ok, now i am more confused.

July 9, 2009, 03:56 PM	#4
Big Ugly Tall Texan Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2009 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 174	I was a Federal immigration inspector for 12 years and assure you that as a Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) of the USA, you can legally purchase and own a firearm as long as you meet the same legal requirements a US citizen would have to meet. Have fun. And you're right - green cards haven't been green for about 20 years. They were kind of pink and now they are beige with holograms and all kinds of cool stuff, like all of the US flags and busts of all of our presidents. __________________ Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you! - Nikita Khrushchev Nikita K. made the prediction. Barry O. will make it come true. - Big Ugly Tall Texan "The 9mm Luger cartridge will simply not do for serious work." - Jeff Cooper "Do not throw rocks at people with guns." - Hastings' Third Law

July 12, 2009, 09:06 PM	#6
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 7,417	>>All joking aside, it depends on the state.<< It used to. The courts have been striking down bans on green-card-holders exercising the RKBA. One of the first was actually in California, in 1972: http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/rappard.txt In that case, state law mandated felony bust for handgun possession for green-card holders. That was tossed out. Within the last year WA State gave up on a roughly similar concept when challenged in court...in other words, they didn't even wait until trial, the state caved in. __________________ Jim March

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July 9, 2009, 03:19 PM	#2
ninjatoth Junior member Join Date: March 21, 2009 Location: sanford,mi Posts: 590	where do you live?I think each state will have different rules for what you need.You will have to go to your local police station or wherever pistol permits are issued,with your drivers license,take the greencard just in case too.Then you will probably have to take a short quiz on firearm safety and pay a small fee to have your background check run.But this all varies greatly from state to state.

July 12, 2009, 08:43 PM	#5
Jason607 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2006 Posts: 138	I'm surprised Hillary hasn't heard of this... do you think she would step across the line to advocate for CCW permits for illegals? All joking aside, it depends on the state.