Chinese Small-Arms

Mulio Rex · May 25, 2000, 08:07 PM

Does anyone have any information about or related to recent developments in Chinese Small arms design?
I believe I heard mention of a 5.8mm cartridge, does this ring a bell to anyone?

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Daniel Watters · May 26, 2000, 11:34 PM

The PRC's 5.8x42mm is reported to give similiar ballistics to the 5.56x45mm M855.
The most commonly seen weapons chambered for the new cartridge are bullpup Type 95 series, arranged vaguely like a Valmet M82 crossed with the FA MAS. However, given the appearance of the non-bullpup variant, the Type 87, I suspect that the base mechanism is that of the 7.62x39mm Type 68 and 81 rifles.

Mulio Rex · May 27, 2000, 01:05 PM

Thanks Dan!

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Big Guns again
No speakee well
But plain.
--H.C

Shin-Tao · May 27, 2000, 11:12 PM

Pics! Need pics!

Daniel Watters · May 28, 2000, 04:48 AM

http://wenxuecity.simplenet.com/mili...ight-arms.html

Shin-Tao · May 28, 2000, 07:15 PM

Yep.
Notice those US patern looking helmets?

I wouldn't mind having one of their rifles but in 5.56mm and with their M203 knock-off.

Thanks for the link.

RustyRP · June 5, 2000, 09:58 PM

Dan - thx for the link - any other sites that might have english language descriptions of those wpns?

did you see the revolving (4 shot i think) knife ????

Also - know of any online chinese translators?

Babelfish (altavista) doesnt do chinese (or finish)

thx

Daniel Watters · June 6, 2000, 07:40 AM

http://www.gsprint.com/cmd/army/small1.htm is dated, but it does have a little bit of physical data.

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May 25, 2000, 08:07 PM	#1
Mulio Rex Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2000 Location: Burkesville,Kentucky Posts: 146	Does anyone have any information about or related to recent developments in Chinese Small arms design? I believe I heard mention of a 5.8mm cartridge, does this ring a bell to anyone? ------------------ Big Guns again No speakee well But plain. --H.C

May 26, 2000, 11:34 PM	#2
Daniel Watters Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 644	The PRC's 5.8x42mm is reported to give similiar ballistics to the 5.56x45mm M855. The most commonly seen weapons chambered for the new cartridge are bullpup Type 95 series, arranged vaguely like a Valmet M82 crossed with the FA MAS. However, given the appearance of the non-bullpup variant, the Type 87, I suspect that the base mechanism is that of the 7.62x39mm Type 68 and 81 rifles.

May 27, 2000, 01:05 PM	#3
Mulio Rex Senior Member Join Date: May 23, 2000 Location: Burkesville,Kentucky Posts: 146	Thanks Dan! ------------------ Big Guns again No speakee well But plain. --H.C

May 27, 2000, 11:12 PM	#4
Shin-Tao Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2000 Posts: 1,528	Pics! Need pics!

May 28, 2000, 04:48 AM	#5
Daniel Watters Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 644	http://wenxuecity.simplenet.com/mili...ight-arms.html

May 28, 2000, 07:15 PM	#6
Shin-Tao Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2000 Posts: 1,528	Yep. Notice those US patern looking helmets? I wouldn't mind having one of their rifles but in 5.56mm and with their M203 knock-off. Thanks for the link.

June 5, 2000, 09:58 PM	#7
RustyRP Member Join Date: September 26, 1999 Posts: 99	Dan - thx for the link - any other sites that might have english language descriptions of those wpns? did you see the revolving (4 shot i think) knife ???? Also - know of any online chinese translators? Babelfish (altavista) doesnt do chinese (or finish) thx

June 6, 2000, 07:40 AM	#8
Daniel Watters Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 644	http://www.gsprint.com/cmd/army/small1.htm is dated, but it does have a little bit of physical data.