Pillar Bedding a Savage

olddav · January 24, 2012, 10:52 PM

Like everyone else I read as much as I could, then reread every thing again, moved slow and try not to do anything stupid. While the road to the target below took a bit of a detour it was worth the effort. The first three shots after pillar bedding measured 3 1/2". Each group shrank by appox 1" untill they setteled on 3/4". The rear action screw loosened up and the groups started to open up as well. Upon discovering this I tracked down a torque wrench and tightened both action screws. Tightening from the back to the front in 10" pound increments untill I reached 50" pounds. Went to the range and this is the result, the 3 shots on the left measure 3/8" center to center, pay no attention to the forth shot.

The rifle is a Savage 110 in 30-06, the best shooting rifle I've ever had!

arizona98tj · January 25, 2012, 12:07 AM

Good job....seems as though it worked out very well.

Like they say...pics of your bedding or it never happened!

olddav · January 25, 2012, 09:44 AM

It's kind of a yen yang thing, Bedding is ugly, results are pretty.

kmaysob · January 25, 2012, 01:56 PM

I think the bedding looks nice when done

Picher · January 25, 2012, 03:00 PM

Did you check to see whether there was any epoxy in the front receiver screw hole? It doesn't seem that you should need 50 inch-pounds of torque to get a pillar-bedded rifle to shoot well.

Did you relieve the bottom of the recoil plate by using tape? If not, it should be routed out, so the action doesn't rock on the plate.

olddav · January 26, 2012, 12:38 AM

Yes I did relieve the front and bottom of the plate (lug ?) with tape, and there is no bedding material in the action screw holes. The torque may be a bit high but thats where it is. How many inch pounds would you recommend, and would both action screws receive the same torque?

And there I was all fat and happy!

Picher · January 26, 2012, 06:48 AM

Your torque is a bit higher than I like, which is about 40-45 lbs on the front screw and 38-40 on the rear, but as long as it's bearing where it's supposed to and shooting like it is, go with it!

olddav · January 26, 2012, 09:51 AM

Picher
Thanks,
I was thinking about backing off on the rear action screw to see if the groups would improve. I've got al-l-l-l spring and summer to tweak this thing, and probably will. While I am happy with the results so far, there may be room for improvement.
Again thanks for the info.

hooligan1 · January 27, 2012, 07:16 PM

Oldav why won't I pay any attention to the flyer?

I get them too it's called thinking California, when I should be thinking titegroup. Or did someone else shoot your target.
Funny story comes to mind, I was having a great day at the range, hell I didn't have to even squeeze any rounds off,,,, no fooling,, but I had many holes in my target. I looked over the booth walll to the young fellas next to me (who were shooting and auto) "hey you guy's are blasting holes through my target!!!!" and guess what the young man said,,, and I quote:" are the groups tight?"

kmaysob · January 28, 2012, 12:34 PM

last trip to the range i was setup out at 100 yards. had a guy come in and set up his target at 25 yards , right in front of mine!

luckily i caught it before he shot at it

January 24, 2012, 10:52 PM	#1
olddav Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2008 Location: Lower Alabama Posts: 727	Pillar Bedding a Savage Like everyone else I read as much as I could, then reread every thing again, moved slow and try not to do anything stupid. While the road to the target below took a bit of a detour it was worth the effort. The first three shots after pillar bedding measured 3 1/2". Each group shrank by appox 1" untill they setteled on 3/4". The rear action screw loosened up and the groups started to open up as well. Upon discovering this I tracked down a torque wrench and tightened both action screws. Tightening from the back to the front in 10" pound increments untill I reached 50" pounds. Went to the range and this is the result, the 3 shots on the left measure 3/8" center to center, pay no attention to the forth shot. The rifle is a Savage 110 in 30-06, the best shooting rifle I've ever had! __________________ Never beat your head against the wall with out a helmet

January 25, 2012, 12:07 AM	#2
arizona98tj Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 980	Good job....seems as though it worked out very well. Like they say...pics of your bedding or it never happened! __________________ stu-offroad.com Largest Jeep TJ project site on the web! (now with guns)

January 25, 2012, 09:44 AM	#3
olddav Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2008 Location: Lower Alabama Posts: 727	It's kind of a yen yang thing, Bedding is ugly, results are pretty. __________________ Never beat your head against the wall with out a helmet

January 26, 2012, 12:38 AM	#6
olddav Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2008 Location: Lower Alabama Posts: 727	Yes I did relieve the front and bottom of the plate (lug ?) with tape, and there is no bedding material in the action screw holes. The torque may be a bit high but thats where it is. How many inch pounds would you recommend, and would both action screws receive the same torque? And there I was all fat and happy! __________________ Never beat your head against the wall with out a helmet

January 26, 2012, 09:51 AM	#8
olddav Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2008 Location: Lower Alabama Posts: 727	Picher Thanks, I was thinking about backing off on the rear action screw to see if the groups would improve. I've got al-l-l-l spring and summer to tweak this thing, and probably will. While I am happy with the results so far, there may be room for improvement. Again thanks for the info. __________________ Never beat your head against the wall with out a helmet

January 25, 2012, 01:56 PM	#4
kmaysob Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 2011 Posts: 188	I think the bedding looks nice when done

January 25, 2012, 03:00 PM	#5
Picher Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 3,694	Did you check to see whether there was any epoxy in the front receiver screw hole? It doesn't seem that you should need 50 inch-pounds of torque to get a pillar-bedded rifle to shoot well. Did you relieve the bottom of the recoil plate by using tape? If not, it should be routed out, so the action doesn't rock on the plate.

January 26, 2012, 06:48 AM	#7
Picher Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 3,694	Your torque is a bit higher than I like, which is about 40-45 lbs on the front screw and 38-40 on the rear, but as long as it's bearing where it's supposed to and shooting like it is, go with it!

January 27, 2012, 07:16 PM	#9
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,585	Oldav why won't I pay any attention to the flyer? I get them too it's called thinking California, when I should be thinking titegroup. Or did someone else shoot your target. Funny story comes to mind, I was having a great day at the range, hell I didn't have to even squeeze any rounds off,,,, no fooling,, but I had many holes in my target. I looked over the booth walll to the young fellas next to me (who were shooting and auto) "hey you guy's are blasting holes through my target!!!!" and guess what the young man said,,, and I quote:" are the groups tight?" __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

January 28, 2012, 12:34 PM	#10
kmaysob Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 2011 Posts: 188	last trip to the range i was setup out at 100 yards. had a guy come in and set up his target at 25 yards , right in front of mine! luckily i caught it before he shot at it