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September 25, 2022, 05:25 PM | #26 | |
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But I don’t recommend carrying moonclips without any sort of carrier. Those, easy index… pop the carrier off and you are ready to reload. |
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September 25, 2022, 11:35 PM | #27 |
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There is an additional downside to having the work done, though it may not be of any concern to you.
You will have permanently altered the gun. This affects the resale market. Custom work that permanently alters the gun turns some people on (the ones who think like you do) and turns some people off. Don't think that having the gun altered to take moon clips increases the value. That will be entirely in the eyes of the prospective buyer. If tis not a feature they find desirable, they won't pay extra for it. Even the people who find it desirable are unlikely to pay more to get it, on your used gun. They'll be looking for a deal too... Additionally, if you do go to sell it, be sure to include a good supply of the clips, and don't expect to get what you spent on them, either. These things may, or may not matter to you, but they are things to consider and decide on, one way, or the other.
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September 26, 2022, 04:28 AM | #28 | |
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September 26, 2022, 04:31 AM | #29 | |
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September 26, 2022, 05:32 AM | #30 | |
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The other thing is why TK says not to run run higher than 35,000 psi rounds through the gun. The cases will stick. Giving advice contrary to the manufacturer/gunsmith is not advisable. They have more experience/knowledge than you do. https://tkcustom.com/pages/9mm-rechambering Note: Our work on cylinders rechambered to 9mm are LIMITED to our customer's using standard 9mm ammo or low pressure reloads, which are 34,000 - 35,000 psi chamber pressure or less. Same chamber pressures apply to firing of .38 SPL & .357 Mag. Examples of FACTORY Brands are: Winchester, Federal & Remington. Absolutely NO 9mm Nato, 9mm +P or 9mm +P+, all which are far beyond the 34,000 - 35,000 psi chamber pressure our Ruger .45 ACP & 9mm cylinder machining is intended for. Usually 38,500 psi, which WILL Stick! If you try to use these high pressure ammo, you will experience cases sticking in all chambers. We cannot warranty our work, if you disregard our warning/notice on high pressure ammo. When rechambered to 9mm the cylinder will still shoot NON-HIGH Pressure ammo, 38 SPL or 357 Mag with or without the proper moonclip. Reloaded range brass, with the unsupported barrel chamber bulge, will not resize properly and results in inferior ammo for use in this conversion! |
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September 26, 2022, 03:48 PM | #31 |
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Jim's comment is 100% spot on. But a cheap moon clip to see if you can tolerate loading and unloading.
I know I can't.
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September 26, 2022, 05:30 PM | #32 |
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Anybody know where I can buy a single j frame moon clip?
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September 26, 2022, 05:35 PM | #33 |
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Three for $15 is about the best I can find.
https://tkcustom.com/collections/all...swjx5-025-blue |
September 26, 2022, 06:10 PM | #34 |
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Well, I bought them….ugh! Should be a good test before I blow 100’s on machining, clips and loader/unloaders.
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September 26, 2022, 07:49 PM | #35 |
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And there to use if you go for the conversion.
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September 26, 2022, 08:01 PM | #36 | |
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September 28, 2022, 02:14 PM | #37 | |
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If they'll do it, and it turns out you don't like it, you can put your gun back to stock.
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September 28, 2022, 09:51 PM | #38 | |
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Always worthwhile to ask, but if they aren't interested or willing, is it "wierd" for them to refuse to disrupt their production schedule for one single customer?
Or is it just practical???
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September 28, 2022, 10:59 PM | #40 | |
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September 29, 2022, 08:14 AM | #41 |
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I use a speed loader for my Ruger Blackhawk.
When the speed loader is full, the revolver is empty. When the speed loader is empty, the revolver is loaded. Simple. Bob Wright
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September 29, 2022, 09:03 AM | #42 | |
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September 29, 2022, 09:20 AM | #44 | |
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Do you eject the rounds manually before doing that? Is this faster than manually reloading the standard way?
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September 29, 2022, 10:05 AM | #45 |
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Maybe the loads are "powder-puff" level and will fall out of cylinder?
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September 29, 2022, 10:34 AM | #46 |
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I knew one person who used a 1911A1 magazine as his "speedloader" for a Ruger Blackhawk 45. It does work, and is slightly faster than handling the rounds loose.
Since I don't play speed games, I don't understand the obsession with reload speed, particularly in revolvers...but, that's just me. I understand easy, and I get the point of "rapid" I just don't see the point to spending extra money (and needing extra parts - clips-) to "save" fractions of a second that I am unlikely to achieve anyway, without many hours of dedicated practice which I'm simply not interested in doing... Your world, your gun, your money, do what makes you happy, while there is still time to do it.
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September 30, 2022, 11:50 AM | #47 |
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Just received the moons today. Wow! Are they fast to reload! I couldn’t imagine the difference in feeling. Just drop and go. I’ll still be slow, but the process is fast. I need to work on my speed!
Doing the pocket test today to see if the clips bend. The loading tool may not be mandatory, but I can see how the unloader helps. This will already be the most expensive j frame ever, but I’m sending it out for a moon clip conversion. I’ll call S&W first. They seem helpful normally. Maybe they are cheaper or can do as a spare cylinder. It’s not a collector’s piece. It has already picked up a ding. In the future, I don’t think I would spring for the 357 mag capability, but I’m really loving the XS front sight and lightweight frame. The 442 Pro seems like the better deal, but lacks the improved sights. Someone needs to make better grips, but that is a conversation for another time. |
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In the future see if you can shoot the Detective Special. I think that would really surprise you.
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September 30, 2022, 09:10 PM | #49 |
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@jar….I’m not sure I understand what you mean..
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September 30, 2022, 09:21 PM | #50 |
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It means your reload is only as good as the shot before and the shot after. A speedy reload solely for speed and without regard to these shots is a false, and possibly dangerous economy. Gamers who are good at the game already know this, btw
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