Hard Swaged lead on rifling?

Vt.birdhunter · June 30, 2015, 05:57 PM

Tempted to use these as airgun pellets/bb's:

http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Sup...uctinfo/SBK1F/

Will the hardened lead damage rifling in my barrels?
Why cant I use use these in an airgun?

Looking for a .22 caliber, cheap, casual plinking ammo; don't care how it groups (I see the disclaimer from the manufacturer)

FrankenMauser · June 30, 2015, 07:12 PM

They shouldn't hurt any .22 rifle of even mediocre quality - especially centerfires.

You may, however, want to use some type of wax-based lubricant to avoid leading.

They're not recommended for air guns for, I assume, two reasons:
1. They're too hard and may get jammed in the throat/chamber of air guns.
2. They note that diameter is somewhat variable. Again, oversized shot may cause a jam in an airgun; or, alternatively, undersized shot may cause extremely poor performance.

chris in va · June 30, 2015, 09:35 PM

I believe airgun pellets need to be softer so the skirt can seal the bore better. There's not a lot of PSI available as with firearms.

Jimro · July 5, 2015, 10:58 AM

If your air rifle can push them out the bore, you should be fine.

Air rifle pellets are made of soft lead so that the skirt will expand to engage the rifling while the head acts like a "bore rider" for best accuracy. The round balls are essentially "BBs" and as long as they an go down your bore they should be fine even if there is some gas bypass.

If they stick in your bore, that's not so good. I would try pushing one through your bore with a brass cleaning rod first to see if there is a lot of resistance.

Jimro

Jim243 · July 5, 2015, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Specifications: Industry tolerances apply; expect slight variances in shot counts and diameters due to production differences.

If you knew how "Buck Shot" was made you would not ask these types of questions.

Jim

F. Guffey · July 7, 2015, 09:53 AM

Quote:

If you knew how "Buck Shot" was made you would not ask these types of questions.

And then there is that quote from R. Lee (I think), "If it has lead in it can be shot", then it had something to do with things added to lead that causes bad bullets, that information was covered with swaging, if it can not be melted and poured because it is ugly, swage it.

F. Guffey

243winxb · July 7, 2015, 12:24 PM

The diameter may be more of a problem. No harm in trying. Just make sure barrel is clear before the next shot. [IMG]

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[/IMG] Can't open it today for photos , its stuck, but i know its lead.

Vt.birdhunter · July 8, 2015, 11:57 AM

I was looking for cheap ammo for a full auto .22 pellet rifle. Significant variations in diameter could be BAD if it jammed one in the barrel in full auto.
Not going to take the chance

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Vt.birdhunter Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 637	Hard Swaged lead on rifling? Tempted to use these as airgun pellets/bb's: http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Sup...uctinfo/SBK1F/ Will the hardened lead damage rifling in my barrels? Why cant I use use these in an airgun? Looking for a .22 caliber, cheap, casual plinking ammo; don't care how it groups (I see the disclaimer from the manufacturer) __________________ Maintaining a constant state of cat-like readiness and a heightened state of suspicious alertness.

June 30, 2015, 07:12 PM	#2
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	They shouldn't hurt any .22 rifle of even mediocre quality - especially centerfires. You may, however, want to use some type of wax-based lubricant to avoid leading. They're not recommended for air guns for, I assume, two reasons: 1. They're too hard and may get jammed in the throat/chamber of air guns. 2. They note that diameter is somewhat variable. Again, oversized shot may cause a jam in an airgun; or, alternatively, undersized shot may cause extremely poor performance. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

July 5, 2015, 10:58 AM	#4
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	If your air rifle can push them out the bore, you should be fine. Air rifle pellets are made of soft lead so that the skirt will expand to engage the rifling while the head acts like a "bore rider" for best accuracy. The round balls are essentially "BBs" and as long as they an go down your bore they should be fine even if there is some gas bypass. If they stick in your bore, that's not so good. I would try pushing one through your bore with a brass cleaning rod first to see if there is a lot of resistance. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

July 7, 2015, 12:24 PM	#7
243winxb Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,730	Peters air rifle shot The diameter may be more of a problem. No harm in trying. Just make sure barrel is clear before the next shot. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] Can't open it today for photos , its stuck, but i know its lead.

July 8, 2015, 11:57 AM	#8
Vt.birdhunter Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 637	I was looking for cheap ammo for a full auto .22 pellet rifle. Significant variations in diameter could be BAD if it jammed one in the barrel in full auto. Not going to take the chance __________________ Maintaining a constant state of cat-like readiness and a heightened state of suspicious alertness.

June 30, 2015, 09:35 PM	#3
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	I believe airgun pellets need to be softer so the skirt can seal the bore better. There's not a lot of PSI available as with firearms.