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Old November 14, 2015, 02:22 PM   #1
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Bound Log Book missing

I need some guidance. I've had my Curio Relic License for a number of years and have renewed at least twice. Until this week I had only made one acquisition a MKVI Webley.

This week I purchased a P64 and went to retrieve my log book to enter the recent purchase, only to find that the box that contained my log book along with the all contents was missing. It seems that the box had been water damaged some time ago and it, along with its contents were thrown out

I do not recall which dealer I purchased the Webley from or even the date the purchase was made. Any thoughts on what I should do?

Many thanks
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Old November 14, 2015, 08:07 PM   #2
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You can let your license lapse and end the record requirement.

Or, take a sheet of paper, enter as much as may be remembered about the Webley, including serial number, and approximate year of purchase, then put it in a binder as your new record. Leave vendor blank, you may remember it later.

Then don't fret about it anymore. BATF is not going to waste time and effort inspecting the records of a collector who has reported one purchase and no sales over several three-year terms.
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Old November 14, 2015, 08:33 PM   #3
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Don't make up a vendor name or falsify an entry. A note that the original record has been lost is OK, stuff happens. But a false entry is lying on an official record and not good at all.

Kilimanjaro is correct; ATF has more to worry about than a lost record on an ancient revolver.

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Old November 15, 2015, 06:41 AM   #4
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Sound advice, thanks!
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Old November 15, 2015, 11:13 AM   #5
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I do not recall which dealer I purchased the Webley from or even the date the purchase was made. Any thoughts on what I should do?
I have no suggestion. You purchased one revolver and you do not remember where you got it.

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Old November 15, 2015, 12:10 PM   #6
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If you license lapses this is no longer a problem. You can also surrender your license. I did so when leaving the country for extended periods in the past. You can re-apply at any point in the future.

I would certainly note the lost information immediately in a new binder with your new acquisition included.
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Old November 15, 2015, 04:13 PM   #7
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Don't know for sure on curio and relic license, but if you surrender any other license, you will have to send your record books to BATFE. Ralph
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Old November 15, 2015, 04:47 PM   #8
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Don't know for sure on curio and relic license, but if you surrender any other license, you will have to send your record books to BATFE. Ralph
Not a requirement for a C&R FFL.
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Old November 18, 2015, 06:05 PM   #9
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Not only do you not need to send it in, but you don't need to retain the records. You can shred it as soon as your license expires.
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Old November 19, 2015, 10:29 PM   #10
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So, you don't have a problem with BATF, but since you can't remember where you bought your only C&R pistol in six years, you do need to eat more bananas for the potassium and start doing crossword puzzles. That will really help.
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Old November 20, 2015, 11:32 AM   #11
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rgillis - the paperwork was lost in a "boating accident" - right?
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