FORUM HELP NEEDED : Mauser - ‘Broomhandle’ - C96 Pistol - Cal 8.15mm (Experimental)

martyjung · March 9, 2011, 10:08 AM

Mauser - ‘Broomhandle’ - C96 Pistol - Caliber 8.15mm (Experimental)

Pistol - Variation 1
Since the early 1960s, there has been much discussion re the C96 - 8.15mm pistol … A small number of these pistols have been verified and exist within the Model 1930, 8xxxxx to 9xxxxx serial range. They are pictured, described and well documented in the classic reference books for the C96 pistol, including ‘System Mauser’ by Breatherd and Schroeder, ‘The Mauser Self-Loading Pistol’ by Belford and Dunlap, and ‘The Broomhandle Mauser Pistol 1896-1936’ by Erickson and Pate. The method of verification has been to make an accurate casting of the chamber which is then compared to the original DWM factory case information and similarly for the bore which is compared to the original DWM factory bullet information. Chamber cast comparison with original DWM factory case information is mentioned in ‘System Mauser’ on page 150.

Cartridge
The DWM 580 case and the DWM 501 bullet (hollow base)/502 bullet (flat and straight base) are illustrated, described and well documented in DWM Case Drawings Volume 1 (2nd Edition), DWM Case Drawings Volume 2 and DWM Bullet Drawings Volume 3 all taken from original DWM source material and published by GIG Concepts Inc, and the Handbuch der Pistolen und Revolver Patronen by Brandt.

There are still a few people, who inexplicably, continue to deny the existence of the C96 - 8.15mm pistol.

Pistol - Variation 2
There is another variation of the C96 - 8.15mm pistol. These pistols are currently being verified and exist within the 2xxxxx to 4xxxxx serial range. These pistols are not pictured, described or well documented in any of the classic reference books. On 20 December 1999, in London, the very prestigious auction house, Cristie’s auctioned a verified C96 - 8.15mm pistol, serial number 275989. The details are available on the Cristie’s website.

The existence of this variation of C96 - 8.15mm pistol is known as the direct result of internet information exchanges between collectors regarding C96 pistols that are not 7.63mm, not 9mm and not in the 8xxxxx to 9xxxxx serial range. These pistols are all factory original, all with matching numbered parts. They have each been examined closely by experts who state that they have been re-bored from 7.63mm to 8.15mm at the factory, by Mauser.

Forum Help Needed
Several collectors in Europe and the USA are currently in the process of searching for other collectors that have C96 - 8.15mm pistols, especially within the 2xxxxx to 4xxxxx serial range.

We are going to make several accurate Cerrosafe castings of the chamber and bore, then have well known pistol/ cartridge experts, in Europe and in the USA, rigorously compare the castings to the original DWM factory specifications for the case and the bullet. Several of us have already shared key casting measurements and find them to be ‘identical’ to each other and to the original DWM factory data. The word ‘identical’ is used here to mean - very close.

If you have such a C96 pistol and are interested in participating with us, then please respond to this posting. We would like to find as many C96 - 8.15mm pistol owners as possible.

Thanks for your interest.

March 9, 2011, 10:08 AM	#1
martyjung Junior Member Join Date: March 6, 2011 Posts: 1	FORUM HELP NEEDED : Mauser - ‘Broomhandle’ - C96 Pistol - Cal 8.15mm (Experimental) Mauser - ‘Broomhandle’ - C96 Pistol - Caliber 8.15mm (Experimental) Pistol - Variation 1 Since the early 1960s, there has been much discussion re the C96 - 8.15mm pistol … A small number of these pistols have been verified and exist within the Model 1930, 8xxxxx to 9xxxxx serial range. They are pictured, described and well documented in the classic reference books for the C96 pistol, including ‘System Mauser’ by Breatherd and Schroeder, ‘The Mauser Self-Loading Pistol’ by Belford and Dunlap, and ‘The Broomhandle Mauser Pistol 1896-1936’ by Erickson and Pate. The method of verification has been to make an accurate casting of the chamber which is then compared to the original DWM factory case information and similarly for the bore which is compared to the original DWM factory bullet information. Chamber cast comparison with original DWM factory case information is mentioned in ‘System Mauser’ on page 150. Cartridge The DWM 580 case and the DWM 501 bullet (hollow base)/502 bullet (flat and straight base) are illustrated, described and well documented in DWM Case Drawings Volume 1 (2nd Edition), DWM Case Drawings Volume 2 and DWM Bullet Drawings Volume 3 all taken from original DWM source material and published by GIG Concepts Inc, and the Handbuch der Pistolen und Revolver Patronen by Brandt. There are still a few people, who inexplicably, continue to deny the existence of the C96 - 8.15mm pistol. Pistol - Variation 2 There is another variation of the C96 - 8.15mm pistol. These pistols are currently being verified and exist within the 2xxxxx to 4xxxxx serial range. These pistols are not pictured, described or well documented in any of the classic reference books. On 20 December 1999, in London, the very prestigious auction house, Cristie’s auctioned a verified C96 - 8.15mm pistol, serial number 275989. The details are available on the Cristie’s website. The existence of this variation of C96 - 8.15mm pistol is known as the direct result of internet information exchanges between collectors regarding C96 pistols that are not 7.63mm, not 9mm and not in the 8xxxxx to 9xxxxx serial range. These pistols are all factory original, all with matching numbered parts. They have each been examined closely by experts who state that they have been re-bored from 7.63mm to 8.15mm at the factory, by Mauser. Forum Help Needed Several collectors in Europe and the USA are currently in the process of searching for other collectors that have C96 - 8.15mm pistols, especially within the 2xxxxx to 4xxxxx serial range. We are going to make several accurate Cerrosafe castings of the chamber and bore, then have well known pistol/ cartridge experts, in Europe and in the USA, rigorously compare the castings to the original DWM factory specifications for the case and the bullet. Several of us have already shared key casting measurements and find them to be ‘identical’ to each other and to the original DWM factory data. The word ‘identical’ is used here to mean - very close. If you have such a C96 pistol and are interested in participating with us, then please respond to this posting. We would like to find as many C96 - 8.15mm pistol owners as possible. Thanks for your interest.