Cheap .45 Battle: Hi Point vs Kahr CT45

TruthTellers · September 5, 2018, 03:06 AM

The Hi Point and Kahr CT45 are the least expensive .45 pistols available brand new. The .45 Hi Point is usually under $200 and the Kahr sells a bit over $300.

Between the two, which do you like more?

bac1023 · September 5, 2018, 04:48 AM

Seriously?

PatientWolf · September 5, 2018, 05:02 AM

I'd go with the Kahr all day long.

Although I have admittedly no direct experience with either, my experience with a PM9 would lead me to expect more from the Kahr.

44caliberkid · September 5, 2018, 06:38 AM

I know one person with Hi Point 45. If you load a full magazine it will jam on the first round every time, so it has to be downloaded a round or two. Also, it looks and feels like holding a brick. Definitely go Kahr.

Charlie98 · September 5, 2018, 08:12 AM

Seriously?

The Kahr every day and twice on Sunday.

JMag1 · September 5, 2018, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bac1023

Seriously?

No kidding.

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Lohman446 · September 5, 2018, 09:51 AM

I want to be the contrarian here. I don't own either as I don't buy price point pistols (though I did with a rifle lately and was pleasantly surprised).

Has anyone ever heard anything but good about Hi-Point customer service? Hi-point has always been the "economy" brand. It is in their heritage. I still remember Kahr from when it was the challenger du jour to Glock so to hear it be compared, even favorably, to Hi-point kind of tells me how it has fallen.

And $100+ when you are comparing a sub $200 gun to a "just over $300" gun is a MAJOR difference

lamarw · September 5, 2018, 11:30 AM

A nearby LE Distributor just had a big sale on confiscated handguns. There were over 450 lots.

I went over the first day of the sale and scored an inexpensive imported German revolver in .38 Special.

They had a huge box of Glocks and a huge box of Sig Sauer P226. I don't think they were confiscated but rather former LE pistols.

There were three huge boxes of Hi-Points. I went back yesterday to see what was left. All the Glocks and Sigs were gone. There was two boxes of the Hi-Points left. They ranged in price from $39.00 to $59.00. So, I gather the Hi-Points are the preference of the folks who have guns confiscated.

sigarms228 · September 5, 2018, 12:12 PM

Neither. With the recent S&W rebate I saw M&P45 going for around $300 after rebate. I would have chosen that.

jackstrawIII · September 5, 2018, 12:29 PM

I wouldn't pay $15 for either of those guns. Even if I walked into the store with $15 in my pocket and nothing else to do that day. I'm not exaggerating.

Another vote for the M&P. Find a used one or something.

TruthTellers · September 6, 2018, 12:01 AM

Didn't know S&W had a rebate going for the M&P's, I'll check that out.

TXAZ · September 6, 2018, 04:16 AM

If your buying it for an opponent in a duel, go with the Hi Point and a stuffed magazine
If it’s for you for self defense, look at Buds deals on police returns.
Just note this when buying cheap guns: You’ll spend more money on ammo and headaches than the gun.

“Things of quality do not fear time.”

Charlie98 · September 6, 2018, 08:43 AM

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I still remember Kahr from when it was the challenger du jour to Glock so to hear it be compared, even favorably, to Hi-point kind of tells me how it has fallen.

Just stop. Turn the question around... compare the Glock against the HiPoint... what do you get? The Kahr is a niche pistol with a narrower use than the Glock. When you think of a concealment pistol the HiPoint is completely out of the equation unless you are just being contrary. I do agree with you on the price point, however, particularly at the budget level.

Kahr makes very good pistols... I have 4 of them and carry one or the other every day. I don't own a Glock... or a HiPoint.

Ben Dover · September 6, 2018, 09:07 AM

None of the above.

Kvon2 · September 6, 2018, 05:46 PM

If I saw a $50 high point I would happily buy it.

I'm not intimately familiar with Kahrs lineup but isn't the CT45 primarily a CCW? If so my answer would be the Kahr for concealed carry. If we're not talking about carrying then I'd buy either for the right price.

lantern2814 · September 6, 2018, 05:58 PM

I'd take the Kahr over every gun mentioned in this thread so far. 1911 grip angle and butter smooth DA trigger.

1MoreFord · September 6, 2018, 09:27 PM

Neither. I'd save a bit longer and find something else.

5whiskey · September 6, 2018, 10:23 PM

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Kahr makes very good pistols... I have 4 of them and carry one or the other every day. I don't own a Glock... or a HiPoint.

I would have to agree. And this is an apples/oranges comparison. One can clearly be suited as a carry pistol, one cannot. Kahr makes fine firearms. I have several thousand trouble free rounds (1, yes just 1, hiccup in the first 3 mags during break in; otherwise flawless) through a cw9 that I carry for plain clothes duty nearly every day.

Kahr and Hi-point are in two separate leagues.

TruthTellers · September 7, 2018, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kvon2

If I saw a $50 high point I would happily buy it.

I'm not intimately familiar with Kahrs lineup but isn't the CT45 primarily a CCW? If so my answer would be the Kahr for concealed carry. If we're not talking about carrying then I'd buy either for the right price.

The CT is Kahr's full size polymer pistol line. Still single stack and DAO tho.

glockman55 · September 7, 2018, 05:22 AM

Kahr

Buckeye! · September 7, 2018, 05:54 AM

I have owned a few Hipoint pistols .. One being a Hipoint 45 , Big & heavy .. But it worked ..ate any ammo I fed it .. including old nasty reloads with 200gr LSWC ....
But the Kahr is several steps up , more than several ...

But for a truck gun a beater the Hipoint will work ...

Charlie98 · September 7, 2018, 10:09 AM

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But for a truck gun a beater the Hipoint will work ...

That's sort of true... but I substituted Kahr for that. At roughly $300 each, I have 3 CW9's and a CM9... one I carry, one is in the desk drawer, one is in the nightstand, and one is in the garage.

I originally was going to get a KelTec, but decided the Kahr was a better fit... following the logic that you are more likely to hit what you are aiming at with a pistol that fits your hand better... I find the grip of the CW9 as comfortable as a 1911, which is Utopia for me. Not so much the KelTec.

Model12Win · September 7, 2018, 07:46 PM

Hi-Point.

Quality made, inexpensive, what's not to love???

tallball · September 8, 2018, 08:13 AM

Neither. Watch Gunbroker and bid carefully. Lots of PD's are dumping their 40 caliber service pistols. I've gotten two Berettas, a Glock, and a Sig in the past year or so for prices ranging from $149 to $309. The more expensive ones came with the box and 2-3 magazines.

Hdonly · September 8, 2018, 11:07 AM

I would choose the Hi-Point. Oh wait. I already did. No you can't conceal it. You can dang sure shoot it though. Eats anything and everything. Goes bang every time. Is accurate. Best cheap money I ever spent on a gun.

September 5, 2018, 03:06 AM	#1
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,888	Cheap .45 Battle: Hi Point vs Kahr CT45 The Hi Point and Kahr CT45 are the least expensive .45 pistols available brand new. The .45 Hi Point is usually under $200 and the Kahr sells a bit over $300. Between the two, which do you like more? __________________ "We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out."

September 5, 2018, 08:12 AM	#5
Charlie98 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2006 Location: Great state of Texas Posts: 1,077	Seriously? The Kahr every day and twice on Sunday. __________________ _______________ "I have this pistol pointed at your heart!" "That is my least vulnerable spot."

September 5, 2018, 12:12 PM	#9
sigarms228 Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2011 Posts: 1,768	Neither. With the recent S&W rebate I saw M&P45 going for around $300 after rebate. I would have chosen that. __________________ “When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” ― Benjamin Franklin

September 5, 2018, 12:29 PM	#10
jackstrawIII Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2016 Location: Upstate NY. Posts: 901	I wouldn't pay $15 for either of those guns. Even if I walked into the store with $15 in my pocket and nothing else to do that day. I'm not exaggerating. Another vote for the M&P. Find a used one or something. __________________ In God we trust.

September 6, 2018, 12:01 AM	#11
TruthTellers Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2016 Posts: 3,888	Didn't know S&W had a rebate going for the M&P's, I'll check that out. __________________ "We always think there's gonna be more time... then it runs out."

September 5, 2018, 04:48 AM	#2
bac1023 Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2008 Posts: 1,107	Seriously?

September 5, 2018, 05:02 AM	#3
PatientWolf Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Location: NC Posts: 947	I'd go with the Kahr all day long. Although I have admittedly no direct experience with either, my experience with a PM9 would lead me to expect more from the Kahr.

September 5, 2018, 06:38 AM	#4
44caliberkid Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2017 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,104	I know one person with Hi Point 45. If you load a full magazine it will jam on the first round every time, so it has to be downloaded a round or two. Also, it looks and feels like holding a brick. Definitely go Kahr.

September 5, 2018, 09:51 AM	#7
Lohman446 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2016 Posts: 2,192	I want to be the contrarian here. I don't own either as I don't buy price point pistols (though I did with a rifle lately and was pleasantly surprised). Has anyone ever heard anything but good about Hi-Point customer service? Hi-point has always been the "economy" brand. It is in their heritage. I still remember Kahr from when it was the challenger du jour to Glock so to hear it be compared, even favorably, to Hi-point kind of tells me how it has fallen. And $100+ when you are comparing a sub $200 gun to a "just over $300" gun is a MAJOR difference

September 5, 2018, 11:30 AM	#8
lamarw Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2010 Location: Lake Martin, AL Posts: 3,311	A nearby LE Distributor just had a big sale on confiscated handguns. There were over 450 lots. I went over the first day of the sale and scored an inexpensive imported German revolver in .38 Special. They had a huge box of Glocks and a huge box of Sig Sauer P226. I don't think they were confiscated but rather former LE pistols. There were three huge boxes of Hi-Points. I went back yesterday to see what was left. All the Glocks and Sigs were gone. There was two boxes of the Hi-Points left. They ranged in price from $39.00 to $59.00. So, I gather the Hi-Points are the preference of the folks who have guns confiscated.

September 6, 2018, 04:16 AM	#12
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	If your buying it for an opponent in a duel, go with the Hi Point and a stuffed magazine If it’s for you for self defense, look at Buds deals on police returns. Just note this when buying cheap guns: You’ll spend more money on ammo and headaches than the gun. “Things of quality do not fear time.” __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

September 6, 2018, 09:07 AM	#14
Ben Dover Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2013 Location: High up in the Rocky Moun Posts: 665	None of the above. __________________ The soldier's pack is not so heavy a burden as the prisoner's chains. Dwight Eisenhower It is very important what a man stands for. But it is far more important what a man refuses to stand for.

September 6, 2018, 05:46 PM	#15
Kvon2 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2016 Posts: 757	If I saw a $50 high point I would happily buy it. I'm not intimately familiar with Kahrs lineup but isn't the CT45 primarily a CCW? If so my answer would be the Kahr for concealed carry. If we're not talking about carrying then I'd buy either for the right price.

September 6, 2018, 05:58 PM	#16
lantern2814 Member Join Date: April 26, 2013 Posts: 42	I'd take the Kahr over every gun mentioned in this thread so far. 1911 grip angle and butter smooth DA trigger.

September 6, 2018, 09:27 PM	#17
1MoreFord Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2014 Location: Arkansas Posts: 244	Neither. I'd save a bit longer and find something else.

September 7, 2018, 05:22 AM	#20
glockman55 Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 179	Kahr

September 7, 2018, 05:54 AM	#21
Buckeye! Senior Member Join Date: September 1, 2008 Posts: 849	I have owned a few Hipoint pistols .. One being a Hipoint 45 , Big & heavy .. But it worked ..ate any ammo I fed it .. including old nasty reloads with 200gr LSWC .... But the Kahr is several steps up , more than several ... But for a truck gun a beater the Hipoint will work ... Last edited by Buckeye!; September 7, 2018 at 08:18 PM.

September 7, 2018, 07:46 PM	#23
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Hi-Point. Quality made, inexpensive, what's not to love???

September 8, 2018, 08:13 AM	#24
tallball Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2014 Posts: 2,444	Neither. Watch Gunbroker and bid carefully. Lots of PD's are dumping their 40 caliber service pistols. I've gotten two Berettas, a Glock, and a Sig in the past year or so for prices ranging from $149 to $309. The more expensive ones came with the box and 2-3 magazines.

September 8, 2018, 11:07 AM	#25
Hdonly Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2013 Posts: 340	I would choose the Hi-Point. Oh wait. I already did. No you can't conceal it. You can dang sure shoot it though. Eats anything and everything. Goes bang every time. Is accurate. Best cheap money I ever spent on a gun.