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Old September 25, 2023, 12:30 PM   #1
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Ruger Marlin 1894 .44 mag

What kind of accuracy are people in the real world getting from them? Thanks
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Old September 25, 2023, 02:13 PM   #2
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I took mine to the range but did not shoot at paper. I was with a friend and we took turns shooting at clay pigons we set on the 25 yard berm. Was busting them easily shooting offhand just for fun. Next time I will take the time to shoot and see how it groups at 50 and 100 yards. I sure like the way mine looks and handles.

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Old September 26, 2023, 09:31 AM   #3
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great looking rifle!
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Old September 26, 2023, 10:50 AM   #4
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I repaired one for client a few years ago. Test fired and got 3/4" group at 25yd. I expect 3 - 4moa.

Ammo was expensive. More than $1 a round.

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Old September 27, 2023, 05:09 PM   #5
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We have a single shot handi rifle in 44 mag. With 240 cast gas check bullets, 1 inch groups or better at 50 yards were common. I would expect that a lever gun would be similar.
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Old September 27, 2023, 06:21 PM   #6
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I have a pre-cross bolt safety w/Microgroove barrel. Getting roughly 2" at 50yds using iron sights. I think there's a decent peep sight set out there somewhere that would help me out.
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Old September 27, 2023, 09:03 PM   #7
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.44 mag carbines

I have posted many times about the twist rate used on the majority of .44 mag carbines from most mfgs up until just recently........1-38". My observations and experience with two vintage Ruger .44 semi's, and my Dad's M94, all so twisted, was that accuracy in those rifles was only so-so....3-4 MOA. Well with minute of whitetail and the useful range of the carbine/ctg, but not what many shooters expect from a modern firearm.

Now, MANY fellas report much better results, with their older carbines, but those three examples mentioned, that I have shot personally, with magnifying optics, were only that capable, with 240 gr bullets. I'd add that heavier bullets, the old 265gr and 300 gr jacketed bullets from Hornady, were much worse. In my gas guns, the lighter bullets, 180 and 200 gr, shot best.

Revolvers in .44 mag have traditionally been twisted 1-18" and .44mag revolvers have a stellar reputation for accuracy. Ruger with with 1-20" twist in the new model 96 and 99 carbines in .44 in their limited production lifespan, basically admitting that old .44 slow twist rate could be improved upon. I read the new Marlin/Ruger carbine is twisted 1-20" and should be a good shooter with a variety of bullets.

Regards peep sights, Skinner offers a couple of options, but one might have to experiment with front sight heights to get on target. A simple arrangement is the Lo-Pro, a single stem arrangement, affordable, and it screws right in to a drilled and tapped scope base hole on the receiver. Skinner also offers more elaborate arrangements as well.

The 1-20" Marlin/Ruger has only been released a short while. Anything prior has to be from the much berated Marlin/Rem arrangement, or an earlier true Marlin, both twisted 1-38.
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Old September 28, 2023, 03:30 AM   #8
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I have a pre-cross bolt safety w/Microgroove barrel. Getting roughly 2" at 50yds using iron sights. I think there's a decent peep sight set out there somewhere that would help me out.
Might want to investigate a tang mounted sight. Semi-traditional for lever actions and quite possibly no interference with the existing open sights.
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Old September 28, 2023, 02:58 PM   #9
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Might want to investigate a tang mounted sight. Semi-traditional for lever actions and quite possibly no interference with the existing open sights.
That's exactly what I want. Just don't know which one to get.
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Old October 1, 2023, 02:01 PM   #10
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It'll be interesting how these compare in accuracy to Winchester 92s and Henry's?
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Old October 1, 2023, 04:49 PM   #11
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I tried a Lyman tang sight on my Marlin 1894 ('93 JM .44 Mag).
It got in the way, irritated me, and it could not be left flipped up without the bolt hitting it.

Correct model for the rifle, but pretty much a bad joke and waste of my time.
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Old October 1, 2023, 06:08 PM   #12
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I intend to get the skinner peep sight for my Ruger/Marlin 1894. Just haven't done it yet.
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Old October 3, 2023, 09:40 PM   #13
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Lever guns are not "The Rifleman" accurate

News flash - lever guns are just NOT 1 MOA rifles. 2-3 MOA is more common. I'm doing well to get a 1-1/4" group at 50 yards with a scoped Remlin 1894. The 240 grain bullets need to be pushed hard to get that. WRT iron sights, the Skinner peep sights do help but I find a low power scope works best for my eyesight. two cents....
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Old October 7, 2023, 07:50 AM   #14
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What are reasonable expectations for the new 1894 Ruger/Marlin fir accuracy?
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Old October 8, 2023, 07:27 AM   #15
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What are reasonable expectations for the new 1894 Ruger/Marlin fir accuracy?
For me, any PCC that can shoot a 4” group at 100yds is pretty good. I’m not talking about the shooter’s ability here, just the rifle’s potential. Just my criteria though.
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Old October 8, 2023, 02:12 PM   #16
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2.5 - 3 MOA w/ Cast is reasonable expectation:
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Old October 9, 2023, 10:36 AM   #17
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This is my first time at the range. I am sure it will be fine at longer distances.




I spend more time looking at this beautiful stock than I do shooting it.




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Old October 12, 2023, 10:28 AM   #18
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wood & accuracy

Oh gosh Trooper, what a pretty piece of wood on the butt stock of that rifle !
Am I interpreting your pics correctly......15 yds?

My latest copy of "Rifle" arrived recently, and scribe Brian Pierce has an article on the new Ruglin () .44 carbine. Shooting at 75 yds, using a Skinner peep sight rig, he managed 3-shot groups with a variety of factory ammo ranging from 1.9-2.7". This was done with a wide range of bullet weights, from 200-300 grains and I find that most impressive. My own shooting with slower twisted .44 carbines would not keep the heavy slugs on a pie plate at 100 yds! Also impressive were the velocities Pierce reported with the 20" Ruglin barrel. Factory 240 grain slugs were running about 1800 fps. The hard cast Buffbore 255 lead SWC got 1780 fps, and that from the reduced recoil load!
The same company's 300 gr jacketed bullet managed 1650 fps. That is a lot of thump for a handy carbine weighing a tad over 6 lbs and 3 ft in length!
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Old October 12, 2023, 12:28 PM   #19
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15 yards is correct. That is about as far as I can see clearly with open sights now days
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Old October 12, 2023, 02:03 PM   #20
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Looks like MOH to me, Minute of Hog.
I have a walnut 77/44 with a Leupold 2.5x heavy duplex shotgun scope.
It will do MOH too, on paper and live targets.
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Old December 4, 2023, 08:20 AM   #21
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any favorite load or bullet/weight, or brand?
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Old December 4, 2023, 02:04 PM   #22
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Something to keep in mind, when shooting .44/.45 guns, a 2" group can be one
5 shot hole.
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Old December 26, 2023, 11:55 AM   #23
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Accuracy with Marlins can be good, eap. If you reload for them. Dont let the naysayers sway you.

As to Ruger Marlin accuracy, they havent been out long enough to get many reports. I hope they shoot as good as they look.


Im holding out for a stainless laminatwd .357!! I hope they hear me!
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Old January 15, 2024, 08:27 AM   #24
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Great thread. I've been eyeballing a .357/.44 lever for some time. Leaned towards the Henry.

These new Ruger/Marlins are much more attractive rifles IMHO. I won't knock a Henry, but they don't have the timeless Old West look these rifles do.
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