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July 10, 2019, 09:46 AM | #51 | |
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There is some discussion. It is rather easy with a man since we tend to dress in the same way day to day. For example, I can carry in my Alien Gear on my hip every day. For a woman, who tends to dress in different styles, it is much more difficult. I make no illusion that I am qualified for that. I tend to think a woman, preferably a stylish one, should teach that. Find one, they are rather rare. I wish there was a store with a holster "boutique" for the ladies, and an attendant who knows what she's doing. Encouraged is to practice the draw in front of a mirror. Repetitively until it becomes an automatic thing. Learn to do it with one hand as the very likely event is that you will be using your other one for defense. I do this often, loose no edge on that. All skills are perishable without refreshment. |
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July 10, 2019, 09:53 AM | #52 |
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FWIW, Florida accepts hunter safety or education courses approved by Fish and Wildlife or a similar agency in another state; any NRA firearm course; any firearms safety course taught by, well, almost anyone with any certification - junior colleges, colleges, LEAs, private schools, as long as the instructor is certified by NRA, Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, or the state Department of Agriculture. If that last one sounds weird, the licensing is through Agriculture and Consumer Affairs.
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July 10, 2019, 11:04 AM | #53 |
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Funny thing is in Ohio a Corrections Officer receives 40 hours training in the academy in an OPOTA approved course then 8 hours training and qualification per year. That officer is not allowed to use that training to get a CCW. Then the fact that they actually have to get one yet someone with a military I.D. is allowed to carry on that.
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July 13, 2019, 04:54 AM | #55 |
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Prior to 911, I took an online Hunter Safety course, sent that into Florida.
It was mailed back to my Toronto address. When I crossed the border at Detroit, headed down the I 75 South. Holstered my Browning Hi-Power (Prior to my love affair with Glock) now carry my Glock 43X. Once I entered the USA to live, I changed my address to my Sons, we lived with him for a while. Personally, I see no reason for a Concealed Carry License to be anything but a one time issue, and no renewal being necessary ever. My interview, for my Citizenship, prior to the Ceremony, the Officer (Ex-Marine, if there is such a person, Ex that is) told me, we have never thrown a Canadian out, ever! In fact, I was in the interview office for a long time! My Wife was very concerned, I was talking to this really pleasant Chap for ages! One comment I will never forget, he came out with me to meet my Wife. I said give my Wife a hug! He said since talking to me, he was not going anywhere near her! Funny Guy. |
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July 14, 2019, 12:03 PM | #57 |
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After carrying daily for roughly 30 years, I moved to SC. The CCW class was a joke. 10-1/2 hours of my life I will never get back.
Going rate for the class is about $75. Find one and wait for a class with an opening. Between find class and take class can run a couple months easy. Class started with this is a gun, this is a trigger, this is a barrel, etc. If you need to be taught that and there is no gun owner in your life that can mentor you, the NRA has a class specifically designed for such complete novices. Almost all of the law portion covered the ten or twelve broad categories of places where the state legislature has decreed that the exercise of a Constitutional right is a criminal offense. The shooting proficiency test was the definition of stupid, Stevie Wonder could pass the shooting test. A silhouette about the size of an NFL offensive tackle. Start with ten shots at about three paces. Repeat at one pace intervals for a total of 100 shots. Impacts in the white count against you, but nobody counts the holes so missing the paper completely does not count against you. Then the fingerprints and state application, another $50. They have 90 days to process the same background check they do if they notice a taillight out but they routinely take all the time they want which goes over the 90 days. That this breaks the law seems not to trouble them in the least. Total cost? $125+. For a right. Prior restraint of a right? Five to six months. Total benefit as it relates to proficiency? Zero. Training as it relates to when is deadly force justifiable in the eyes of the law? I'll grant them this. I learned that if you intervene when someone else's life is in imminent peril, that person's right to self defense must be perfect, meaning if they started the initial confrontation or at any point did anything that could be construed as escalating - even something as simple as telling a road rager that a red light means stop - the state will jack you up too. That much at least is good to know in advance. |
July 22, 2019, 10:35 PM | #58 |
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WOW, today I received my CCW in the mail. One month turnaround time. I think that's incredible. How fast did you all get your CCWs?
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July 23, 2019, 06:59 AM | #60 |
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5 weeks..Colorado..
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July 23, 2019, 07:10 AM | #61 |
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It takes about 10 minutes if you don't count the time it takes to actually fill out the little card. 10 Minutes !
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July 23, 2019, 09:13 PM | #63 | |
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July 24, 2019, 07:54 AM | #64 |
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25 bullets a year and you are complaining about Military ID’s being accepted??
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July 24, 2019, 09:16 AM | #66 | |
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They get much more firearms training and firearms safety training than the vast majority of Police Departments. That is why you can use your DD214 and Military ID as proof of firearms training in most states that even require some proof of competency in firearms. |
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July 24, 2019, 09:18 AM | #67 | |
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Even Communist places like Maryland understand that:
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The law sees your opinion as irrelevant as do most folks who understand the intent. I have seen first hand LEO's who have issues using a pistol due to lack of familiarity as well. Quote:
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A Basic Trainee fires more ammunition and receives more firearms training than the majority of LEO's. Quote:
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Most states require no firearms training at all to get a CCW. Most states that do have a training requirement accept a DD214.
In many states including New York a valid DD214 allows you to apply for a firearms license when younger than age 21 in addition to waiving the requirement for firearms training: Quote:
Peoples Republic of California you do not need the firearms training: Quote:
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