Primers at the gunshow

round pounder · April 18, 2009, 07:23 PM

Hey all I am new here but not new to reloading anyway you should have seen he prices of guns and stuff at the gunshow in Syracuse, NY. Primers were $50 a 1000 and madnum primers were $75 a 1000. I ask the dealer why they were so expensive and he said thats the price because of how hard they are to get and Isaid well you have 20000 primers and I can still get them for less than that online matter of fact I have some backordered for 22.50 a 1000! He said well then wait for them I am here to make money not sympathy points! How does that catch you all our brothren gun people are crooks also?

Rembrandt · April 18, 2009, 08:20 PM

He's absolutely right, it's called free market capitalism, supply and demand.....something not taught in schools today. People who don't like the higher prices are so quick to embrace socialism for a solution to the problem. You want the government to take primers from the "rich" and re-distribute them like they intend to do with peoples money?

Suck it up, learn to live with the shortages....it will pass. Us old timers have seen this before, and it'll happen again.

Shoney · April 18, 2009, 08:21 PM

It is the rule of supply and demand. If he has what you need, he controls the price. You have only to choose how badly you need them.

CAVEAT EMPTOR
as my dear departed grandpappy used to say, when he would loosely translate it as: “Never trust a naked used chariot salesman.”

tiberius10721 · April 18, 2009, 08:26 PM

be smart dont buy them.I paid 38 dollars the other day for a box of primers and decided that was it for me Im waiting for them to go back down.

kv501 · April 18, 2009, 08:30 PM

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I can still get them for less than that online matter of fact I have some backordered for 22.50 a 1000!

If you have these back ordered online and you think you are only paying $22.50 you are wrong (unless you are getting free primers). The haz mat fee for shipping is going to put you almost right at the $50.00 he was charging at the gun show.

Also, I know the subject of primer availability is overkilled in this forum as well as at any other gun website, but I just don't see the shortage that everyone else does. I live in northwest Iowa, and I can get 3-4000 of whatever size I want right now. Also, I have been to gun shops in southern Minnesota, South Dakota, as well as Wisconsin all in the past 2 months, and they all had stock and were charging in the $27.99 - 34.99 range. I think that the regional shortages a lot of people are experiencing are making the whole thing look a lot worse than it is.

MrNiceGuy · April 18, 2009, 08:31 PM

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Hey all I am new here but not new to reloading anyway you should have seen he prices of guns and stuff at the gunshow in Syracuse, NY. Primers were $50 a 1000 and madnum primers were $75 a 1000. I ask the dealer why they were so expensive and he said thats the price because of how hard they are to get and Isaid well you have 20000 primers and I can still get them for less than that online matter of fact I have some backordered for 22.50 a 1000! He said well then wait for them I am here to make money not sympathy points! How does that catch you all our brothren gun people are crooks also?

You honestly expected him to lower his price because you found some cheaper on the internet?

It sounds like you were an unreasonable shopper with delusional expectations.
Dont go back there. You will be happier, the shop will be happier, and the people who choose to buy the primers he has in stock will be happier. The world will be a happier place if you stay out of it

PCJim · April 18, 2009, 08:32 PM

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He said well then wait for them I am here to make money not sympathy points!

OK, so play his game, call "check", and don't buy them. He wants to make money. He makes NO money if they don't sell. If the General Public holds off and does not succumb to his prices, he will be forced to lower the price to move the product and make his money. Simple economics.

round pounder · April 18, 2009, 08:33 PM

Yes i am waiting and glad to pay hazmat fee at this point just thought we all worked together not to F___ our brothers in arms but i guess that is why we military keep the dealers free to charge what they want!!!!!!!!!!!!!

round pounder · April 18, 2009, 08:39 PM

And to KV501 when you buy more than 1000 the price is less simple math Jac_as_. I need SPP and SRP and LRP so thats 3000

kv501 · April 18, 2009, 08:47 PM

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And to KV501 when you buy more than 1000 the price is less simple math Jac_as_. I need SPP and SRP and LRP so thats 3000

I don't recall saying anything about the price. All I said is that you are not going to get any primers anywhere online for 22.50. I merely stated that your comparison between prices was invalid because you didn't factor in shipping. Before you come in here spouting off about unfair prices in front of a lot of guys/gals who are die hard believers in capitalism you should get your facts straight. I'm done with this one.

round pounder · April 18, 2009, 09:15 PM

You are correct KV and the exact reason IMO the country is in the small boat it is in. You make a comment and then spout your reason to a reply and give up on the fact that you are wrong or did not think your response completely through and still this is ok in society today as your freedom to do that will be defended by the lower to middle class that defend the countries rights to do that.

MrNiceGuy · April 18, 2009, 09:41 PM

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You make a comment and then spout your reason to a reply and give up on the fact that you are wrong or did not think your response completely through and still this is ok in society today as your freedom to do that will be defended by the lower to middle class that defend the countries rights to do that.

That is one hell of a ramble on sentence... too bad it's severely short on substance.

Bottom line is you will always be able to find cheaper prices online. Online stores usually function solely as a middle man between the manufacturer and retail consumer. As such they have MUCH lower overhead than a physical store or gun show, their prices dont include shipping or other associated fees, and their inventory is usually non existent.

By supporting such businesses you are saving perhaps a few dollars, but in the meantime you are succeeding only in damaging your local economy and pushing the local industry to more receptive markets.

The dealer was not in the wrong for standing by his prices in these times. If he cannot sell them it's nobody's loss but his own. You, on the other hand, need to CTFO and get over yourself. Perhaps he simply couldnt match the prices, maybe he could and just didnt like you... either way, you're incessant whining will accomplish nothing.

Photo Guy · April 18, 2009, 09:44 PM

It's times like these that I am happy my dad has been reloading for years. He is in the habbit of going through at least 500 rounds every Friday night and has purchased a lot of stuff in quantity before the preverbial crap hit the fan. As of current, 35,000 primers in boxes as well as about 20,000 45ACP and .357 Mag already loaded should last a while but it would be nice to know where powder and new casings are for new reloads.

erikrichard · April 18, 2009, 10:25 PM

I went to a gunshow today, found one box of 1000 sp primers in the whole joint. I asked how much, he said $76.50. I told him he was nuts and walked away.
I'd rather shoot way less and let my stash last awhile until prices get reasonable than play this game. I think we all know these primers were bought for $25 bucks before this mess started, I for one am not going to contribute to this Greed.

Al Norris · April 18, 2009, 11:11 PM

There is a "sticky" thread at the top of this forum that deals directly with this subject.

Is there some valid reason to not post your remarks there, instead of opening, yet another thread on the pricing and availability of reloading supplies?

I don't think so.

Closed.

April 18, 2009, 07:23 PM	#1
round pounder Junior Member Join Date: April 1, 2009 Posts: 7	Primers at the gunshow Hey all I am new here but not new to reloading anyway you should have seen he prices of guns and stuff at the gunshow in Syracuse, NY. Primers were $50 a 1000 and madnum primers were $75 a 1000. I ask the dealer why they were so expensive and he said thats the price because of how hard they are to get and Isaid well you have 20000 primers and I can still get them for less than that online matter of fact I have some backordered for 22.50 a 1000! He said well then wait for them I am here to make money not sympathy points! How does that catch you all our brothren gun people are crooks also?

April 18, 2009, 08:21 PM	#3
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	It is the rule of supply and demand. If he has what you need, he controls the price. You have only to choose how badly you need them. CAVEAT EMPTOR as my dear departed grandpappy used to say, when he would loosely translate it as: “Never trust a naked used chariot salesman.” __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

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April 18, 2009, 08:20 PM	#2
Rembrandt Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2002 Posts: 2,108	He's absolutely right, it's called free market capitalism, supply and demand.....something not taught in schools today. People who don't like the higher prices are so quick to embrace socialism for a solution to the problem. You want the government to take primers from the "rich" and re-distribute them like they intend to do with peoples money? Suck it up, learn to live with the shortages....it will pass. Us old timers have seen this before, and it'll happen again.

April 18, 2009, 08:26 PM	#4
tiberius10721 Junior member Join Date: December 22, 2008 Posts: 228	be smart dont buy them.I paid 38 dollars the other day for a box of primers and decided that was it for me Im waiting for them to go back down.

April 18, 2009, 08:33 PM	#8
round pounder Junior Member Join Date: April 1, 2009 Posts: 7	Yes i am waiting and glad to pay hazmat fee at this point just thought we all worked together not to F___ our brothers in arms but i guess that is why we military keep the dealers free to charge what they want!!!!!!!!!!!!!

April 18, 2009, 08:39 PM	#9
round pounder Junior Member Join Date: April 1, 2009 Posts: 7	And to KV501 when you buy more than 1000 the price is less simple math Jac_as_. I need SPP and SRP and LRP so thats 3000

April 18, 2009, 09:15 PM	#11
round pounder Junior Member Join Date: April 1, 2009 Posts: 7	You are correct KV and the exact reason IMO the country is in the small boat it is in. You make a comment and then spout your reason to a reply and give up on the fact that you are wrong or did not think your response completely through and still this is ok in society today as your freedom to do that will be defended by the lower to middle class that defend the countries rights to do that.

April 18, 2009, 09:44 PM	#13
Photo Guy Junior Member Join Date: April 8, 2009 Posts: 7	It's times like these that I am happy my dad has been reloading for years. He is in the habbit of going through at least 500 rounds every Friday night and has purchased a lot of stuff in quantity before the preverbial crap hit the fan. As of current, 35,000 primers in boxes as well as about 20,000 45ACP and .357 Mag already loaded should last a while but it would be nice to know where powder and new casings are for new reloads.

April 18, 2009, 10:25 PM	#14
erikrichard Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Posts: 160	I went to a gunshow today, found one box of 1000 sp primers in the whole joint. I asked how much, he said $76.50. I told him he was nuts and walked away. I'd rather shoot way less and let my stash last awhile until prices get reasonable than play this game. I think we all know these primers were bought for $25 bucks before this mess started, I for one am not going to contribute to this Greed.

April 18, 2009, 11:11 PM	#15
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	There is a "sticky" thread at the top of this forum that deals directly with this subject. Is there some valid reason to not post your remarks there, instead of opening, yet another thread on the pricing and availability of reloading supplies? I don't think so. Closed.