pellet gun

T-Ray · September 23, 2007, 04:16 PM

I'm going to buy a pellet gun and want to spend less than 130 with minimum 1000fps breakbarrel. it doesn't have to have a scope as i grew up with a daisy buck so i can use open sights efficiently. suggestions?

Sturm&Rugerfan · September 23, 2007, 11:17 PM

i have a crossman remi wood stock rifle but gamo also makes a nice rifle

CamoCop · September 23, 2007, 11:59 PM

try look'n into Gamo Airguns

**JohnKSa** · September 24, 2007, 12:17 AM

What do you plan to use your airgun for?

T-Ray · September 24, 2007, 07:17 PM

i plan to use it for rabbits, skunks, armadillos, snakes, buzzards, pretty much any pest around my grandma's house (not in city limits of course). also with the buzzards, i only shoot them if they're endangering calfs (grandma has about 65 head of cattle). and i have heard many people complain greatly about gamo's and i think they're a little pricy for what they have to offer

Greybeard · September 24, 2007, 09:23 PM

"dove"

feds sez migratory birds only taken legally with shotguns

T-Ray · September 24, 2007, 09:31 PM

awww... nvm then. that shall be edited out. thank you for that

FirstFreedom · September 24, 2007, 09:42 PM

If you do a search, limited to the Rifle forum, in the last 6 months, searching the subject line only, for "air", you will find some recent good discussions on budget air rifles.

T-Ray · September 24, 2007, 09:46 PM

thanks i'll check that out

langenc · September 24, 2007, 09:55 PM

Wait till you can afford a good one-buy once-cry once.

roy reali · September 24, 2007, 10:16 PM

So, you have attack buzzards in your neck of the woods? We have many of them around here. Our buzzards tend to attack creatures that are already dead.

**JohnKSa** · September 24, 2007, 10:29 PM

As much as I love airguns, I'd recommend a .22rifle for the uses you mention. If you are set on an airgun, I'd up the price limit a bit and go for something in .22 caliber vs .177.

BTW, killing buzzards/vultures is also against the law.

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Our buzzards tend to attack creatures that are already dead.

I've got a friend that owns cattle--he confirms that buzzards will kill newborn calves if they can get to them before the mother recovers.

chuckmatlock · September 28, 2007, 09:01 AM

If you get a gamo, you can get a trigger modification and that helps. If used for what you liseted I would recommend a RWS 48 although they are quite expensive 300 +. They pack quite a punch, a beeman R9 is also very nice again not cheap, the fps numbers are usually BS and most advertised at 1000fps actually shoot 890-920. Whenb you do get the gun try Crosman premier lights (if in .177) they tend to shoot very well out of most guns. When hunting use JSB preditor pellots, ballistic polymer tips they make nice holes and expand well.
Chuck

NRA4life · September 28, 2007, 10:11 AM

I have a Gamo 440 that I really like. I've killed rabbits out to better than 40 yards with it. The 220 model is similar, not so fancy and can probably be bought for about that much without a scope.

cryption · September 28, 2007, 10:16 AM

I have a crossman Quest 1000x and I like it. Many a bird has been killed by it.

Mavrik · September 28, 2007, 10:27 AM

I have an old Benjamin Franklin multi pump .22 air rifle I got from my grandfather. As accurate as I am out to about 30 yrds and can put a lead pellet through both sides of a steel coffee can (and once the head of skunk ) with about 7 pumps. Only thing I can practice with in my backyard as my neighbors have a lot of cattle and horses and I wouldn't feel comfortable shooting anything else.

Mavrik

T-Ray · September 30, 2007, 08:31 PM

cryption- does the crossman 1000x shoot .22 as well as .177?

and yes the buzzards will go after calfs. they will poke their eyes out and sometimes kill. just goes to say, everything's bigger and in this case, tougher in texas.

i have never heard of shooting buzzards is illegal, but (dont shoot me for saying this) if it came down to it, i would rather keep a calf alive than a buzzard. that calf could be fed to a homeless person someday and save his life from starvation. or it could reel in some benjamins so my grandma can keep her farm and pay brookshires for the food she eats.

hunter33 · September 30, 2007, 10:10 PM

my friend saw some buzzards take small sheep once.

Scorch · October 1, 2007, 01:13 PM

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my friend saw some buzzards take small sheep once

Oh, please!!! How does a 5-6 pound bird kill a 30 lbs lamb?? I won't even ask how it kills a calf! Now, if you told me it was eagles that killed the sheep, I would believe it. Bald eagles and golden eagles kill a lot of lambs.

Besides, buzzard is the name for a Eurasian hawk, a bit smaller than a red-tailed hawk. Vultures are NOT "buzzards", despite what John Wayne said. If you spent as much time learning about what you see outdoors as you do watching bad Western movies, you might already know that.

castnblast · October 1, 2007, 05:26 PM

I have a winchester my dad bought right before he died last year. I think they are right in your price range. I put a red dot on it, and use premium hp pellets. It's freak'in accurate. Supposedly it shoots 1100fps. The trigger stinks, but I've gotten used to it. It took some practice. BTW, the hollow point in the pellet is a marketing gimmic...they don't expand. But they have an excellent seal. If you want them to expand, put them in backwords. Talk about a thwack!. that gun will put a pellet right through a cedar fence plank.

**JohnKSa** · October 1, 2007, 10:06 PM

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Besides, buzzard is the name for a Eurasian hawk, a bit smaller than a red-tailed hawk. Vultures are NOT "buzzards"...

Buzzard is a colloquial term and is not very rigidly defined. It includes pretty much any vulture (as well as hawks) as it is commonly used in America.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/buzzard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzard

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I won't even ask how it kills a calf!

If they can get to a newborn before the mother recovers, they will begin feeding on the calf starting with the eyes and going in at the rear end. They may not kill it outright, but there's not much else to do with a calf that's gotten this treatment but put it down.

T-Ray · October 2, 2007, 09:53 PM

like i said, down here in texas, everything's different. especially compared to washington state. we have rattlers, bull snakes (my cousin stepped on one when he was picking blackberries for my grandma and she heard a scream and like 5 seconds later he was about 100yds from where it was), cows, horses, you name it. the buzzards will take down calfs. a sheep would be like taking candy from a baby. also, as john said, hawks can take them down, but we're not referring to hawks. we're talking about god's trashcans.

September 23, 2007, 04:16 PM	#1
T-Ray Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 288	pellet gun I'm going to buy a pellet gun and want to spend less than 130 with minimum 1000fps breakbarrel. it doesn't have to have a scope as i grew up with a daisy buck so i can use open sights efficiently. suggestions?

September 23, 2007, 11:17 PM	#2
Sturm&Rugerfan Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2005 Location: Presto PA Posts: 148	check out gamo or crossman i have a crossman remi wood stock rifle but gamo also makes a nice rifle

September 24, 2007, 12:17 AM	#4
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,973	What do you plan to use your airgun for? __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

September 24, 2007, 07:17 PM	#5
T-Ray Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 288	i plan to use it for rabbits, skunks, armadillos, snakes, buzzards, pretty much any pest around my grandma's house (not in city limits of course). also with the buzzards, i only shoot them if they're endangering calfs (grandma has about 65 head of cattle). and i have heard many people complain greatly about gamo's and i think they're a little pricy for what they have to offer Last edited by T-Ray; September 24, 2007 at 09:32 PM.

September 24, 2007, 09:23 PM	#6
Greybeard Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2002 Location: Denton County Texas Posts: 686	"dove" feds sez migratory birds only taken legally with shotguns __________________ www.dentoncountysports.com A Private Palace for Pistol Proficiency

September 23, 2007, 11:59 PM	#3
CamoCop Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 133	try look'n into Gamo Airguns

September 24, 2007, 09:31 PM	#7
T-Ray Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 288	awww... nvm then. that shall be edited out. thank you for that

September 24, 2007, 09:42 PM	#8
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	If you do a search, limited to the Rifle forum, in the last 6 months, searching the subject line only, for "air", you will find some recent good discussions on budget air rifles.

September 24, 2007, 09:46 PM	#9
T-Ray Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 288	thanks i'll check that out

September 24, 2007, 09:55 PM	#10
langenc Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2007 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 1,551	Wait till you can afford a good one-buy once-cry once.

September 24, 2007, 10:16 PM	#11
roy reali Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2005 Posts: 3,248	Tough Birds So, you have attack buzzards in your neck of the woods? We have many of them around here. Our buzzards tend to attack creatures that are already dead.

September 28, 2007, 09:01 AM	#13
chuckmatlock Member Join Date: September 25, 2007 Posts: 44	130 is quite cheap for a quality airgun If you get a gamo, you can get a trigger modification and that helps. If used for what you liseted I would recommend a RWS 48 although they are quite expensive 300 +. They pack quite a punch, a beeman R9 is also very nice again not cheap, the fps numbers are usually BS and most advertised at 1000fps actually shoot 890-920. Whenb you do get the gun try Crosman premier lights (if in .177) they tend to shoot very well out of most guns. When hunting use JSB preditor pellots, ballistic polymer tips they make nice holes and expand well. Chuck

September 28, 2007, 10:11 AM	#14
NRA4life Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2001 Location: WA Posts: 183	I have a Gamo 440 that I really like. I've killed rabbits out to better than 40 yards with it. The 220 model is similar, not so fancy and can probably be bought for about that much without a scope.

September 28, 2007, 10:16 AM	#15
cryption Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2007 Location: Huntsville, TX Posts: 247	I have a crossman Quest 1000x and I like it. Many a bird has been killed by it.

September 28, 2007, 10:27 AM	#16
Mavrik Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 89	I have an old Benjamin Franklin multi pump .22 air rifle I got from my grandfather. As accurate as I am out to about 30 yrds and can put a lead pellet through both sides of a steel coffee can (and once the head of skunk ) with about 7 pumps. Only thing I can practice with in my backyard as my neighbors have a lot of cattle and horses and I wouldn't feel comfortable shooting anything else. Mavrik

September 30, 2007, 08:31 PM	#17
T-Ray Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 288	cryption- does the crossman 1000x shoot .22 as well as .177? and yes the buzzards will go after calfs. they will poke their eyes out and sometimes kill. just goes to say, everything's bigger and in this case, tougher in texas. i have never heard of shooting buzzards is illegal, but (dont shoot me for saying this) if it came down to it, i would rather keep a calf alive than a buzzard. that calf could be fed to a homeless person someday and save his life from starvation. or it could reel in some benjamins so my grandma can keep her farm and pay brookshires for the food she eats.

September 30, 2007, 10:10 PM	#18
hunter33 Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 289	my friend saw some buzzards take small sheep once.

October 1, 2007, 05:26 PM	#20
castnblast Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2006 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 1,148	I have a winchester my dad bought right before he died last year. I think they are right in your price range. I put a red dot on it, and use premium hp pellets. It's freak'in accurate. Supposedly it shoots 1100fps. The trigger stinks, but I've gotten used to it. It took some practice. BTW, the hollow point in the pellet is a marketing gimmic...they don't expand. But they have an excellent seal. If you want them to expand, put them in backwords. Talk about a thwack!. that gun will put a pellet right through a cedar fence plank. __________________ VEGETARIAN...old indian word for bad hunter

October 2, 2007, 09:53 PM	#22
T-Ray Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 288	like i said, down here in texas, everything's different. especially compared to washington state. we have rattlers, bull snakes (my cousin stepped on one when he was picking blackberries for my grandma and she heard a scream and like 5 seconds later he was about 100yds from where it was), cows, horses, you name it. the buzzards will take down calfs. a sheep would be like taking candy from a baby. also, as john said, hawks can take them down, but we're not referring to hawks. we're talking about god's trashcans.