grandfather made a gun.

thebser · July 22, 2013, 10:22 PM

Ok for real my grandfather made a single shot 22 out of a revolver body and a piece rifle barrel. he used the original sights brass welded on. Its a open top revolver body from a 1899 safety police Hopkins and allen.....its a neat lil gun and im wondering if its even legal. Its been around for at least 80 years and im just nervous owning it although there gonna hafta pry it from my cold dead hands.....any ideas

TXAZ · July 22, 2013, 11:14 PM

Good luck.

MarkDozier · July 23, 2013, 12:45 AM

There are 2 parts to this. It was legal for your grandpa to make and own.
Did you inherit the gun or did he give it to you. If he gave it to you it is totally correct for you to own.
If you inherited it I do not know the answer.

Bill DeShivs · July 23, 2013, 12:50 AM

As long as the barrel is rifled, the gun is legal.

thebser · July 23, 2013, 07:44 AM

i was givin the gun and the barrel is rifled. I live in an area were I don't hafta worry too much about it. just wanted to know if I was with in my rights... As far as gutsy nah id turn it in if I had too but id be very very devastated. Its all I have left of that man

PetahW · July 23, 2013, 11:42 AM

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Under current Federal Law, it's legal to convert a handgun into a rifle, but once so converted, it's against the Law to reconvert it back into a handgun w/o a special BATF permit.

(I once did so, and got a BATF ruling/letter to that effect before starting the project)

It's against the Law to convert a rifle into a handgun.

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thebser · July 23, 2013, 05:30 PM

well I talked to a police officer and was told its perfectly legal and its a nice gun lol said my grandfather must have been a smart man! he also said to be safe and be responsible....

**4V50 Gary** · July 23, 2013, 06:46 PM

Popo is right.

It started as a handgun and was converted into a 22 LR handgun. All is good.

Jim Watson · July 23, 2013, 09:44 PM

It would be interesting to see a picture if it is legal.
If it does not have a buttstock, it is still a pistol no matter the barrel length. Legal
If it does have a buttstock, and the barrel is at least 16" long, it is a rifle. Legal.
If it does have a buttstock and the barrel is less than 16" long, it is a Short Barreled Rifle.
Not legal without license that Grandpa probably didn't have.

thebser · July 23, 2013, 09:52 PM

its a revolver body with a barrel that folds down and you load it. its really cool....and really simple kinda reminds me of an old s&w single shot .22 target pistol

thebser · July 23, 2013, 09:53 PM

http://smith-wessonforum.com/members...ch-barrel.html

Jim Watson · July 24, 2013, 07:16 PM

I know what a S&W Single Shot looks like, I was interested in Grandpa's approach and workmanship.

thebser · July 24, 2013, 09:39 PM

I just might hafta take pics to post! its great craftsmanship

ripnbst · July 24, 2013, 10:38 PM

Post pics of this little bugger. I want to see it too!

thebser · July 25, 2013, 09:45 PM

I gotta get it out and take some pics!!!! I have had problems posting pics in the past but im gonna give it another shot....after I get off work tomorrow!!!

July 22, 2013, 10:22 PM	#1
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	grandfather made a gun. Ok for real my grandfather made a single shot 22 out of a revolver body and a piece rifle barrel. he used the original sights brass welded on. Its a open top revolver body from a 1899 safety police Hopkins and allen.....its a neat lil gun and im wondering if its even legal. Its been around for at least 80 years and im just nervous owning it although there gonna hafta pry it from my cold dead hands.....any ideas

July 22, 2013, 11:14 PM	#2
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Good luck. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes Last edited by TXAZ; July 25, 2013 at 08:20 AM.

July 23, 2013, 12:50 AM	#4
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,985	As long as the barrel is rifled, the gun is legal. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

July 23, 2013, 07:44 AM	#5
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	its rifled and i was givin the gun i was givin the gun and the barrel is rifled. I live in an area were I don't hafta worry too much about it. just wanted to know if I was with in my rights... As far as gutsy nah id turn it in if I had too but id be very very devastated. Its all I have left of that man

July 23, 2013, 05:30 PM	#7
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	i talked to the po po well I talked to a police officer and was told its perfectly legal and its a nice gun lol said my grandfather must have been a smart man! he also said to be safe and be responsible....

July 23, 2013, 12:45 AM	#3
MarkDozier Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2010 Posts: 363	There are 2 parts to this. It was legal for your grandpa to make and own. Did you inherit the gun or did he give it to you. If he gave it to you it is totally correct for you to own. If you inherited it I do not know the answer.

July 23, 2013, 11:42 AM	#6
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	. Under current Federal Law, it's legal to convert a handgun into a rifle, but once so converted, it's against the Law to reconvert it back into a handgun w/o a special BATF permit. (I once did so, and got a BATF ruling/letter to that effect before starting the project) It's against the Law to convert a rifle into a handgun. .

July 23, 2013, 06:46 PM	#8
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,841	Popo is right. It started as a handgun and was converted into a 22 LR handgun. All is good. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

July 23, 2013, 09:44 PM	#9
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	It would be interesting to see a picture if it is legal. If it does not have a buttstock, it is still a pistol no matter the barrel length. Legal If it does have a buttstock, and the barrel is at least 16" long, it is a rifle. Legal. If it does have a buttstock and the barrel is less than 16" long, it is a Short Barreled Rifle. Not legal without license that Grandpa probably didn't have.

July 23, 2013, 09:52 PM	#10
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	hmmm its a revolver body with a barrel that folds down and you load it. its really cool....and really simple kinda reminds me of an old s&w single shot .22 target pistol

July 23, 2013, 09:53 PM	#11
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	http://smith-wessonforum.com/members...ch-barrel.html

July 24, 2013, 07:16 PM	#12
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,543	I know what a S&W Single Shot looks like, I was interested in Grandpa's approach and workmanship.

July 24, 2013, 09:39 PM	#13
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	I just might hafta take pics to post! its great craftsmanship

July 24, 2013, 10:38 PM	#14
ripnbst Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 1,552	grandfather made a gun. Post pics of this little bugger. I want to see it too!

July 25, 2013, 09:45 PM	#15
thebser Member Join Date: June 18, 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 95	gonna do it I gotta get it out and take some pics!!!! I have had problems posting pics in the past but im gonna give it another shot....after I get off work tomorrow!!!